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Strategies for active listening in adult learning? (struggling with language learning) (piefed.social)

submitted 1 day ago by Ashtear@piefed.social to c/adhd@lemmy.world

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I was just diagnosed with ADHD this summer so I'm still figuring out what helps with areas I struggle in. One of them has always been active listening. I did okay in school as long as I had a notebook--better if I had written lecture notes--but I was never great at languages and the times where I had tests with only a listening section to rely on were consistently my worst ever in school.

I've picked up Japanese study again in earnest last year, and now, of course, I'm looking at this through a different lens. At this point, my listening comprehension is a full proficiency tier (or more) behind my reading. I tried some structured listening for a couple of months but mostly just ended up frustrated. One thing I'm noticing is if there's slow-paced talk, or if there's a single word I don't know, I'll completely lose focus. With reading, my brain automatically "plays" the passage at 1.5x speed or whatever it needs to stay focused, whereas that's a lot harder with listening (when it's an option at all).

I've seen a couple of strategies in articles I dug up recently, such as having a fidget toy at your desk while listening, or counting specific words while listening. If there are any language learners out there, has anything worked for you on this? Or perhaps something to help you with active listening as an adult in general?

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[–] Ashtear@piefed.social 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not musically inclined at all but seeing as how you're the second one to mention music I'm definitely going to try it. I've tried so many other things to help with my listening that a totally different mode might be just the thing.

So, podcasts have been my primary vector for attacking this and it's been brutal. It's possible I've been overthinking it and maybe I should just struggle through as you say, use speed controls, pause frequently. I was doing the following:

Take a small segment (4-5 minutes)
Actively listen three times
Read a transcript
Listen a fourth time and shadow the segment out loud

Supposedly language learning research backs up this method, but maybe it was just overkill and now that I've done a few more months of adding vocab and grammar practice, I should just try bulk input again to build up input automaticity and simply pause/rewind where necessary.

[–] Rugnjr@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

I'll preface that you're trying a much harder language than me so maybe such a method is truly necessary but for me I didn't do any "repeat X many times" I just tried to understand, and once I knew what was being said, I was happy to move on I never had such a structured method, although I do sometimes write down lists of words or phrases I don't know and ask friends about it or look it up. My phone's notes app is full of them. I don't worry too hard about words that I keep forgetting multiple times, if they're common words they'll come with time.

I try to avoid Google translate/chatgpt, I feel like it's nicer with my physical English/danish dictionary or asking friends, but I understand not everyone has instant access to native speakers.

Just remember that the biggest thing is to keep at it. Time beats all