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Season 1 Episode 9: La Chica o El Mundo

Air Date: December 24th, 2025

Synopsis: Season finale. Manousos arrives in Albuquerque and complications ensue. Carol visits the last best place on Earth.

Directed by: Gordon Smith

Written by: Gordon Smith, Alison Tatlock

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[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Not sure why she asked for an atom bomb and didn’t ask for her eggs.

[–] MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They wouldn’t give her her eggs. We know this.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Their imperative to join others > all else.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It’s an assumption. If this is true I would want to see it on camera.

[–] MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

It’s been stated multiple times. It was the motivating factor for the cliffhanger.

Absent some sort of secret, we have no reason to believe Pluribus is lying when they say their biological imperative they join everybody is anything less than they say it is.

Don’t do harm > join people (including rebroadcasting the signal) > make other life “happy” > everything else. That’s it.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I see what you’re saying. I would have liked the show to explicitly decline her request and give that reason.

Up to now they have only denied giving her information, but have not denied any of her requests for things. It seems reasonable to at least ask for the eggs back and then let the hive respond.

The fact that this wasn’t put on camera makes me think the writers would have felt obligated to have the hive give her the eggs and they still need those eggs as a plot device for future seasons.

I’m probably wrong, but we wont really know until season 2 whenever that may be.

[–] MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They previously gave us enough exposition to be certain the answer would be no.

That was the third or fourth time Carol had a conversation with Pluribus about how it’s a foregone conclusion they would join her. There was the conversation where Pluribus told Carol joining somebody is like saving them from drowning, and the multiple conversations where Carol asked and Pluribus explained why she didn’t have a choice.

You’re not alone…a lot of people seem to be mistakenly under the belief that Pluribus will always give Carol what she wants. I don’t know what to say, other than to explain the show as I understand it.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don’t exactly disagree with anything you’re saying. I just wanted this to be explicit. It’s such an important plot hole that they should have put it on camera.

As of now it looks like Carol just didn’t think of asking for it.

[–] MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Missing exposition isn’t a plot hole…not that I agree the exposition was missing.

I gave you all the evidence as to why I understood they wouldn’t stop using her stem cells. Additionally, Pluribus tries not to answer when they can’t give/tell Carol what she wants…and they tried to avoid telling her about the eggs.

This isn’t a show that spoonfeeds the viewer.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Just gonna have to agree to disagree. I don’t think it is being spoonfed to expect the obvious question to be at least asked on camera. As of now we don’t know if it was asked and answered, or if Carol was too dumb to even think about asking.

You’re fine with that, I’m not.

[–] MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It was obvious and we didn’t need to be told.

There’s no huge mystery as to if Pluribus would have abandoned its biological imperative or not. You’re being silly. 

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

lol, ok. We just don’t agree. It’s fine. I’m not being silly, I have a different perspective than you. It’s what is great about communities built around tv shows. You get a wide range of takes.

[–] Pluribus@lemmy.zip 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Probably the "biological imperative" would be stronger in this case, and they would refuse her request. Nonetheless I think such scene would be good addition, because it would shed more light on how the Others thought process, and Carol wouldn't look stupid.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

I’d like to see her try. Knowing Vince Gilligan I could see Season 2 starting with the hive delivering her eggs to her. Just to close up the loose end.

[–] placebo@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Do we know for sure that she didn't ask? We only know that she didn't get her eggs.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

It would be dumb if the first request she made that they turned down was made off camera.

Though, I could see them starting season 2 with the Hive bringing her the eggs. Just to close that plot hole.

[–] teft@piefed.social 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hell just ask for her eggs to be destroyed or it will hurt her. She doesn't need them herself. Also ask for them to destroy any research related to her eggs specifically or it will hurt her. You'd have to phrase it like a damn monkey paw wish though because the Others will use any loophole.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 5 points 6 days ago

I feel like they'd refuse.