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US denies visas to ex-EU commissioner and others over social media rules (www.bbc.co.uk)
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[โ€“] Skunk@jlai.lu 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Visa as in travel visa for entering a country. Not the credit card.

Although your point still is true, and also why would he even wanted to travel there?

[โ€“] atro_city@fedia.io 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm not mistaking them. I'm saying that from banning entry to banning from the banking system is unfortunately not a big step for the current US leaders and their tools.

[โ€“] Skunk@jlai.lu 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh yeah thatโ€™s right as well.

Iโ€™d say theyโ€™ll start doing that mid 2026.

[โ€“] atro_city@fedia.io 1 points 2 days ago

I kind of hope so. I would accelerate changes to the European banking system.

[โ€“] lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Why would US banking matter to a non-US citizen? Wondering if Iโ€™m missing something from your comment

[โ€“] comrade_twisty@feddit.org 4 points 2 days ago

Ever paid with card while traveling in the EU without relying on Visa, Mastercard or AmEx?

[โ€“] slazer2au@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Because non US banks are still beholden to some US rules because they are using US products.

Some of the members of the International Criminal Court are having problems because they are on US sanction lists.

Using office 365/Hotmail/azure? No account because Microsoft.

Want to use Google workspaces? Nope, still a US company

What about getting your own domain? Well, ICANN is a US organisation so good luck.

How about paying for things? Visa, MasterCard, American Express, Discover cards? All US companies.

~~Well what about a regular bank account? Hope the bank doesn't use SWIFT because guess what, US company.~~ I am wrong about swift.

[โ€“] XM34@feddit.org 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

SWIFT is a European cooperative and its headquarters is located in Belgium! I don't know where you even got the idea that this could be an American company.

Also, all of Europe is covered by Giro Payment. Credit cards do exist and are usually supported, but almost no one uses them domestically.

Edit: Another interesting note about ICANN. The US government has not had direct control over ICANN since 2016 due to its importance for global communications. The US government has no power to censor any of the namespace resolving outside its own borders and if they were to try, this would give a lot of states a very strong argument for the already existing calls to remove ICANN entirely from US jurisdiction.

[โ€“] lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

are having problems

What problems? This is the nature of my curiosity - what does the US baking system have to do with non-US baking customers?

  • 365/Hotmail is not banking related
  • Google workspace is not a bank
  • Domains arenโ€™t required for banking
  • Visa/MC/AmEx: how does this affect someone in the EU?
  • If an EU bank does use Swift, what does that imply for its EU banking customers?
[โ€“] slazer2au@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Visa/MC/AmEx

As the ICC employees are on a sanction lists they can't be issued banking cards that use those finance networks. Guess who uses those finance networks. European banks.

The others were examples of how as a non American you are effected by being on the US sanction lists.

[โ€“] lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Ah got it, thank you thatโ€™s making much more sense now