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[–] NotMushroomForDebate@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

“Available only because her own child was denied it.” I don’t think they care tbh. Unless there’s a psychological effect on the calf here I’m failing to understand why I should care

This point is usually made because an alarming number of people aren't aware of the basic fact that cows need to be made pregnant in order to produce milk. They believe that cows are just 24/7 milk producing machines, and thus it is no harm to simply just "take" the milk they produce automatically, rather than understanding that you have to separate them from their children who you feed formula while their mothers pine for them.

Firstly, goat milk is also a thing. Secondly it would make more sense to focus on things humans already consider unethical, i.e, shark fin or ivory. If we can live without those we don’t necessarily need milk either

Goat milk is nowhere near as ubiquitous as cow milk, so it's not as relevant. Also unlike shark fin or ivory, a large number of people believe that dairy is a necessary part of a healthy diet. This belief is reinforced in schools in many countries, as well as in popular media and culture.

Vegan arguments such as these are not made in abstract or pulled from thin air, it's because these specific points get brought up by people all the time, even if they do sound very silly to us. I've personally heard variations of these previous two (cows just make milk, dairy is necessary for humans) easily over a hundred times in real life.

[–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I wonder how many people would stop drinking milk if they knew it contained white blood cells from the cow. There's also cells from the lining of the udder. Pasteurization kills it but... it's still there.

a large number of people believe that dairy is a necessary part of a healthy diet

This came straight from the dairy industry, much like almost all popular nutrition "facts". Same with the 90s food pyramid that said you should eat 8 whole portions of grain per day lol. We just take it for granted because we trust them, it feels very boomer somehow. I feel like the generations after X stopped trusting corporations on an inherent basis, or at least not as much.

[–] Marat@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 month ago

Why would blood cells and lining make someone want to stop drinking milk? I'm confused

I wonder how many people would stop drinking milk if they knew it contained white blood cells from the cow. There’s also cells from the lining of the udder. Pasteurization kills it but… it’s still there.

I doubt anyone would care. People are just used to whatever is normalised on a cultural level. They often eat the inner linings from animals' intestines for sausages, for example. It's also completely normalised to have hacked-off pieces or even entire corpses actively rotting (albeit relatively slowly) inside your fridge; so the concept of disgust doesn't really factor in so long as you're used to it.

It has also been my experience that people who act concerned about something like soy having phytoestrogens in it suddenly stop caring when it's pointed out to them that cow milk contains actual mammalian estrogen. The "concerns" they often express are rarely genuine.