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I'm just incredibly shocked by the fact that an admin of the instance lemmy.dbzer0.com is openly supporting Hamas.
Here's a link to the comment: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/61235665/23634712
You are being obtuse.
Hamas and Israel are opposing factions in armed struggle.
Israel seeks occupation, apartheid, and genocide over Palestine.
Hamas fights for the liberation of Palestine from Israel's barbaric oppression.
It should not seem complicated.
As if Hamas were just reacting to Israels oppression and have no agency of their own? As if they aren't fighting for a fundamentalist islamist state!?
Hamas emerged from within the context of a brutal occupation.
Before Israel, there was no Hamas.
Before the Nakba, there was no Hamas.
Hamas is fundamentally a construct of colonial resistance.
It is not seriously a threat to any interests except Israeli atrocities. Even if it did threaten Palestinians, the threat would be dwarfed by such atrocities of Israel. Palestinians are far safer through Hamas than they would be without Hamas. It is easy to imagine a superior alternative, but none actually exist in the present.
So you can't answer me? It's just as I thought. You brainlessly just repeat the same shit again and again like a drone. There's no substance or thought into it whatsoever. You don't seem to understand that repeating the same bullshit endlessly isn't going to change anything, it's still invalid. I literally gave a chance to give your case and you can't. My point stands because it's true.
I responded to your question appropriately, by observing that it is based on a distortion of language.
Hamas is, de facto, the current Palestinian resistance against Israeli atrocities.
Try asking a question politely and in good faith, if you genuinely want answers that promote the quality of discussion.
Oh don't give me that cop out bullshit. We both know I'm not the one being disingenuous here. I asked you the most direct, straightforward, and central question in this entire discussion... and you didn't answer it at all. You ignored it and went back to repeating the same shit again and again like a broken record.
I'll ask again, what has Hamas done to resist Israel? You're all over this thread explicitly voicing your support for Hamas. When people rightfully asked you why, your answer is that they're a "resistance group". That is your entire justification, that is your core point, your central argument. I said fine, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and have you explain yourself. Explain to me how, when, and where has Hamas resisted Israel? Once again, I'm giving you the floor to give your case because you didn't do nothing on it last time.
The reason why I'm asking you because I'm genuinely baffled that people like you exist. I want you to explain to me where the substance behind your claims lie because I don't see it. Hamas has been in power for 20 years, what have they done to resist Israel? I cannot think of anything whatsoever besides them launching a bunch of rockets that hit nowhere and terrorist attacks that targeted civilians. Every single time they did anything, they got Israel to bomb the shit out of them and advance their goals. It's the epitome of taking 1 step forward and then 100 steps back.
Their crown achievement was supposed to be the Oct 7th terrorist attacks. Them massacring a bunch of civilians at a music festival and nearby villages and taking hostages was the absolute peak of their "resistance". Not even 24 hours later, Israel pushed them back into Gaza and then started their campaign of turning Gaza into hell on earth. It's been over 2 years now. Israel has bulldozed the entirety of the strip, captured all the of the territory, killed tens of thousands of people, cut off all aid and utilities, and they have successfully achieved virtually all of their initial goals one by one. Where's the Hamas resistance during all this? There isn't even a symbolic resistance let alone an effective one. Their resistance can accurately be assessed as negative.