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I'm just incredibly shocked by the fact that an admin of the instance lemmy.dbzer0.com is openly supporting Hamas.
Here's a link to the comment: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/61235665/23634712
There's an obsession with 'If this side is bad, the other side must be good' nowadays that has become kind of crazy.
The posted comment never represents one side as "good". It correctly identifies one side as resisting imperialism and colonialism, while acknowledging its lack of perfection.
Oh goddamn it. I just wanted an instance that didn't go down all the time.
SJW is decent enough, but you can always go with the classic world
shitlibs
But then in their other comment:
I cant speak for anyone else but on a personal level I don’t tend to agree that calling people “tankies” and “red fash” is productive when referring to other leftists
OK, for all intents and purposes, it's a tankie.
Tankie bar. If it squawks like a duck
DB0 is a highly suspect instance.
Well yeah it's a tankie instance
No, they're not. The instance is heavily anarchist and explicitly against Tankie shit. That doesn't prevent them from endorsing problematic perspectives though.
They cosy up together at a campfire, dude. You heard of a nazi bar? If a bar doesn't throw out a nazi, it becomes a nazi bar, and that's exactly what's happened to dbzer0. Circlejerking about how great authoritianism is and refusing to challenge tankies or take a stance against them is not anarchism.
They're tankies and regularly cater towards tankies, such as Davels (Lemmy.ml admin), Cowbee and Diva, all self-confessed tankies.
They also regularly engage in ableism against me and others. They're bigots and trolls, no wonder they federate with Hexbear.
Ouf, I had no idea. Thanks for the screenshots. I only "met" unruffled and kittenzrulz.
Go to their leftymeme community, there is a lot of regressive tankie content.
Glorification of the CCP (claiming they are not authoritarian), glorification of DPRK (!!!), tons of "Death to America" type content, whitewashing of russia and much more...
These is pretty standard stuff for online "communists" based in the West.
You should find some of those posts and share in this comm
Lol
Apparently if the USSR killed you, you were a Nazi. 100% Nazis the USSR never killed anybody that wasn't a Nazi/s
Especially the millions of people who definitely were not Nazis like those dastardly ukrainians and Afghans and Georgians and those capitalists etc
I think I will do that one of these days, I honestly have only been two comms on DB0, one unrelated to politics and the other one is the mod abuse one where I got perma-banned for challenging DB0's pet poster (believe it or not they didn't perma-ban me for pointing out the regressiveness and lack of humanity of the tankies).
Now how does the same admin feel about Bandera, Azov, the Russian Volunteer Corps, and the Prigozhin mutiny?
Prigozhin wasn't fighting against imperialism, he was a Russian imperialist himself. his only problem was that he wasn't in control of it
Hamas is in the same boat. They're a jihadist group who want to impose their beliefs on to everyone else through violence. They themselves are imperialist. Just because Israel is that doesn't mean they aren't either.
Well Hamas is a resistance group...
That might be true by some definition, but doesn't make it inherently leftist and worth supporting. Hamas is still mainly endorsing Islamist fundamentalism, which is definitely an authoritarian and oppressive ideology.
That doesn't make it good by default. What they resist, how they do it, and what they achieved is what actually matters.
Anyone who uses the term "shitlibs" shouldn't ever be taken seriously about anything.
I don't condemn Hamas for fighting Israel but I also don't support Hamas the Right-Wing organization created and funded by Israeli intelligence for the express purpose of weakening the PLO and preventing Palestinian unity. I wouldn't be surprised at all if orders to launch the Oct 7 attackers came straight from Netanyahu. Some of the biggest protests to ever rock Israel occurred in 2023 from January till Oct 7 and Netanyahu would probably be in prison right now if not for the Hamas attack allowing his trial to be repeatedly delayed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Israeli_judicial_reform_protests