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[–] yunqihao@hexbear.net 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That makes sense, except kkkanada and europe are not military peers to the US. Even collectively, they remain heavily dependent on US-controlled systems such as logistics, intelligence, satellites, encrypted communications, and weapons software, which gives Washington enormous leverage over their defense capabilities and limits their ability to operate independently in a high-intensity conflict.

Effort post about the chinese military incoming.

The only true near-peer military competitor the US currently faces is China, and even then only in the context of a US-initiated conflict in East Asia. The PLA is not structured for global expeditionary warfare like the US military, but rather for regional denial, escalation control, and defeating intervention forces before they can establish dominance. That difference in mission profile is crucial for understanding the balance of power.

In terms of current military capabilities, the US still maintains advantages in global power projection, combat experience, nuclear submarine quieting, long-range bomber operations, and alliance integration. The US operates 11 nuclear-powered aircraft carriers supported by a mature carrier air wing doctrine and worldwide basing network, something China does not yet possess. The US also retains superiority in strategic airlift, overseas logistics, and sustained multi-theater operations.

However, China’s advantages lie elsewhere, and increasingly in areas that matter more in a modern industrial war.

China now possesses the largest navy in the world by ship count, and more importantly, the world’s most powerful naval shipbuilding capacity. Chinese shipyards can produce major surface combatants at a pace the US cannot dream to replicate. Type-055 destroyers (equivalent in displacement to cruisers) are being launched at rates comparable to US WWII production, while the US struggles to replace aging hulls. In a prolonged conflict, this industrial replacement capacity alone dramatically shifts the balance.

This industrial advantage extends across the force. China produces missiles, drones, ships, and aircraft domestically with minimal reliance on foreign suppliers, while the US defense industry has become highly consolidated, slow to scale, and dependent on long supply chains. American production of key systems such as precision munitions, interceptors, and naval platforms cannot currently match the consumption rates projected in a peer war.

China’s missile forces represent perhaps its greatest asymmetric strength. The PLA Rocket Force is the largest in the world, fielding thousands of conventional ballistic and cruise missiles. Systems such as the DF-21D and DF-26 (often described as “carrier killers”) are designed specifically to deny US naval access inside the First and Second Island Chains. China has also deployed the DF-17 hypersonic glide vehicle, giving it operational hypersonic capability years ahead of the United States. In contrast, the US has yet to field hypersonic weapons at scale.

In the air and maritime domain, China has built one of the densest integrated air defense networks on Earth, combining HQ-9 and HQ-22 systems with early-warning radar, counter-stealth detection research, and layered missile coverage. This significantly constrains US airpower near China’s coastline and forces reliance on long-range standoff weapons.

China’s progress in space, cyber, and electronic warfare is equally central. The PLA treats space as a warfighting domain, not merely a support function. It has demonstrated direct-ascent anti-satellite missiles, co-orbital systems, electronic jamming, and satellite-interference capabilities. The US, which relies far more heavily on satellites for navigation, targeting, and communications, is structurally more vulnerable in this domain.

A major factor often ignored in surface-level comparisons is industrial and economic integration. China’s military-civil fusion system allows civilian industries: shipbuilding, electronics, AI, telecommunications, robotics, and aerospace to be rapidly adapted for military production. Dual-use manufacturing is not an exception but a foundation of PLA modernization. This gives China the ability to surge production during crisis in ways the US system, divided between civilian and defense sectors, struggles to match.

Access to critical minerals and rare earth elements further reinforces this advantage. China dominates global refining and processing of rare earths essential for advanced weapons systems, including: jet engines, radar arrays, guidance systems, precision munitions, drones, and electric motors. Even US weapons production remains partially dependent on Chinese-processed materials, creating strategic vulnerability that cannot be solved quickly.

In emerging systems, China is advancing rapidly. The PLA is heavily investing in autonomous and AI-enabled warfare, emphasizing mass over boutique platforms. Drone swarms, loyal-wingman aircraft, autonomous surface vessels, and underwater drones are being developed to overwhelm defenses through scale. Drones displayed at recent Victory Day parades including stealth UAVs, long-range strike drones, and cooperative swarm platforms indicate a doctrine focused on saturation and system disruption rather than platform-to-platform parity.

Looking forward, several major programs could significantly alter the balance.

China’s navy is expected to transition from conventionally powered carriers to Type-004 nuclear-powered aircraft carriers, which would eliminate endurance limitations and allow true blue-water operations. While China currently lacks carrier experience comparable to the US, even one or two nuclear carriers would mark a fundamental shift in operational reach during the 2030s.

In the air domain, China continues expanding its fifth-generation fleet with the J-20 and J-35, while credible evidence points toward the development of a tactical stealth bomber or medium-range stealth strike aircraft, filling the gap between fighters and the H-20 strategic bomber program. Combined with loyal-wingman drones and long-range precision strike, this would significantly increase China’s ability to contest air superiority regionally.

China is also modernizing its nuclear forces, moving from minimum deterrence toward a survivable second-strike posture. New missile silos, road-mobile ICBMs, submarine-launched JL-3 missiles, and early-warning systems indicate a maturing nuclear triad, even if total warhead numbers remain below those of the US and Russia.

Taken together, the competition is no longer simply about who has more advanced individual platforms. It is about industrial depth, sustainment capacity, access to resources, dual-use integration, and the ability to replace losses under wartime conditions.

The US still holds decisive advantages in global reach and experience, but China now holds clear advantages in missile warfare, regional denial, shipbuilding capacity, and industrial mobilization. As China’s carrier force, long-range aviation, autonomous systems, and nuclear infrastructure mature, the gap continues to narrow.

[–] Blakey@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Type-055 destroyers (equivalent in displacement to cruisers) are being launched at rates comparable to US WWII production

Holy shit, that's fucking wild. Got a source? Not that I doubt you, if anyone could do that it's china, but... Holy shit.

[–] Gucci_Minh@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I don't think that's accurate, the PLAN had 8 Type 055s built in 4 years, and another 8 on the way in the same timespan. The USN in WW2 had over 100 cruisers built.

If we're talking about potential though, Chinese shipbuilding capacity dwarfs the US, and in a hypothetical war scenario (that somehow doesn't turn nuclear) with full wartime production the gap widens more. However I expect that given their expense and the fact that they'll be priority targets that the PLAN will likely use their submarines and Type 054A/B and Type 052Ds to do the heavy lifting, since a loss of a frigate or destroyer isn't as crippling and they're much faster and cheaper to build. It'll be like that image where the US navy has a handful of decades old arleigh burkes and trump battleships vs the latest batch of PLAN destroyers, laid down 2 months ago, commissioned last week, with another 4 dozen on the way.

[–] yunqihao@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You’re right, I dug back into it and the specific “WWII-level destroyer production” line was me mangling a few different sources that were making related but not identical claims.

What is well documented is that China’s shipbuilding capacity and tonnage output absolutely dwarf the United States today. A 2025 CSIS study cited by Navy Times found that a single Chinese shipyard produced more commercial ship tonnage in 2024 than the entire U.S. shipbuilding industry has built since World War II, which is where I likely had the WWII comparison stuck in my head. https://www.navytimes.com/global/asia-pacific/2025/03/11/chinas-shipbuilding-dominance-a-national-security-risk-for-us-report/

That same report notes that China now produces over 50% of global shipbuilding tonnage, while the U.S. accounts for roughly 0.1%.

Separately, U.S. Congressional Research Service and Navy assessments estimate that China’s overall shipbuilding capacity measured in gross tonnage is over 200 times larger than that of the United States, largely due to its integrated civilian–military shipyard system. https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/RL33153

In terms of actual naval output, a senior U.S. Indo-Pacific Command admiral has stated that China is currently producing roughly 3–4 times more naval tonnage per year than the United States, even before accounting for its massive commercial shipbuilding sector. https://www.businessinsider.com/china-outpacing-us-shipbuilding-top-indopacom-admiral-says-2025-4

So the WWII comparison was overstated, but the underlying "issue" is arguably more serious for the US. China controls roughly half of global shipbuilding capacity, much of it in dual-use yards that can be partially redirected under wartime mobilization. The United States, by contrast, represents only a fraction of a percent of global shipbuilding and lacks the industrial depth to rapidly replace naval losses in a prolonged conflict. Apologies again I will have to avoid posting so early in the morning without rechecking my sources.

[–] Blakey@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

China controls roughly half of global shipbuilding capacity

Even wilder! Dang.