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You guys ever notice how it's always the democrats that break rank but never the republicans?
It's also always just enough democrats to make sure republicans always get what they want.
Why people keep voting for them is beyond me. They must be stupid or something.
The Blue Dogs (the group that voted for ice funding) is the same group of dems that thwarted Bill Clinton.
It's all kayfabe, it's the squared circle. Whenever actual change is on the menu, like the public option with Obama care, exactly enough dems will turn to make it not happen, reliably.
How many is the super majority? Add 2 and that's how many dems will show up to stop progress.
Massie's been in full revolt for months now. And we've had perennial haters in the GOP going back to John McCain and Ron Paul. And the Tea Party Caucus was a big reason why the GOP couldn't pick a new House Speaker for nearly a month. These opponents tend to be Libertarian flavored, and tend to undermine Neocon efforts to spend money at the risk of raising taxes
The loathsome Blue Dog Caucus are an organized conservative opposition within the liberal party. It consistently sabotages party priorities while funneling enormous sums of corporate money into leadership races.
Both exist to benefit corporate interests.
but they never face any consequences from party leadership.
it's moreso the case that when leadership decides they don't actually want to stop something (for reasons) the blue dogs are called upon to performatively break ranks and help the Republicans.
If they really were in opposition to the actual goals of the party, they would not retain influential positions within it.
It’s because both parties are owned by the same Israeli lobby and the Zionist tech bro oligarchs. It’s not even a conspiracy it’s easily verifiable. Epstein and Gizzline worked for Israel to collect blackmail for Israel. We pay for Israeli’s to have universal healthcare, free college and a $400 monthly payment per child until they turn 18 but those things are evil and “communist” here. We the American taxpayers pay hundreds of billions for this stuff while Americans die and go into debt for sickness. Israel is a hostile foreign power do friends blackmail their allies? https://www.trackaipac.com/congress https://wonderisrael.com/monthly-stipend-for-a-jewish-kid/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Israel
They are.
Who should we vote for otherwise? Every other option leads to Republicans staying in power, and they are the ones actually doing it.
Don't vote? That's fewer votes the Republicans need to win, so they stay in power.
Vote third party? That splits the opposition vote, and Republicans stay in power.
And no, neither of those choices "teach the Democrats a lesson." It just drives them to go to the people who do vote, who are more right wing, so it drives everything further right.
You want a more left wing party? Show them that the left votes and our votes have value.
they don't control the entire D party, there are good people there.
support the good ones, primary the bad ones.
In the last 10 years I've seen a noticeable shift in the number of normies (non political junkies) who have realized which Democrat are real and which are paid stooges.
If we want to push things back to the left, we absolutely have to show support for more left candidates in the primaries.
But if we don't show them that we're willing to vote, we're just going to get candidates that chase the votes of the people who DO vote.
Democrats don't care about your vote, that should have been obvious during Harris's campaign while they focused on the right wing vote.
Democrats are not the opposition, they are the enablers of fascism, they are complicit in everything happening right now.
That doesn't answer my question. Who should we vote for that doesn't result in the fascists staying in office?
Stop voting for them in the primaries so we don't have this issue.
The primaries are the key. Support the people who will oppose these issues.
But as we saw with Bernie, the support has to be undeniable and actionable, or they'll just put in who they want anyway. This means that there is a non-zero chance that we'll end up with the usual kind of choices. Should we then support the candidate that isn't at least actively disparaging the law, or should we not vote and increase the chance of the party that is actively destroying things winning?
I don't vote for capitalists
So we can have Obama or Biden rather than Adolf Hitler with dementia?
What about what happened with Hillary?
Bernie would have won, but instead we get 12 years of trump.
So we can have double-tap Obama and Genocide Joe? JFC dude, we deserve better
If you can't see the difference between Oboma and Trump I can't help you
I can help you.
Obama funded ICE and built the concentration camps, while bombing Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Pakistan, Yemen, and Somalia.
Then Trump exploits and uses ICE, while Dems continue to fund it. Trump is mask off unhinged Capitalism, Obama was "polite" mask on Capitalism. Neither serve you. Neither improved material conditions for the working class.
Edit: also Kamala ran on empowering ICE, and bragged about a stronger border than Trump even wanted. Wtf are even talking about. Democrats enable Republicans. Always. They are the other side of the same capitalists coin that does not serve you whatsoever.
... was not was he was saying?!