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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Police lie under oath, a lot

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Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

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[–] BruisedMoose@piefed.social 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It almost looks like the guy in gray accidentally fired a shot into the ground when he walked away that set the others off .

Edit: which obviously means jack shit in relation to the entire killing.

[–] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The angle they have on Crimes of ICE shows this, too. Guy runs off with a gun to the ground, fires, then looks around like "Oh shit".

[–] TrojanRoomCoffeePot@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can you ID a particular officer (coat colour), and the version of the incident that you saw this? I've been going through the multiple versions trying to figure out who first discharged their firearm but aren't seeing what you are.

[–] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He's the one running toward the camera in the link I had at around the 21 seconds mark before running off to the right of the camera-man. He's wearing a light gray coat and a similar colored baseball cap.

I see him now, I've been reviewing comments on other threads and reviewing the clips. It appears as though he may have been the one who first discharged a firearm; https://media.thelemmy.club/rapidsave.com_3rd_angle_of_todays_shooting-rqrfifu9mcfg1.mp4

In watching the above clip on a 0:02 repeat before the first firearm retort, and can just barely make out distortion extending out from the muzzle in the middle of the frame (0:39-0:40). I think that Grey Coat ICE may indeed have fired the first round, setting the rest of the event in motion.