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[–] corbin@awful.systems 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Nah, it's just one guy, and he is so angry about how he is being treated on Lobsters. First there was this satire post making fun of Gas Town. Then there was our one guy's post and it's not doing super-well. Finally, there's this analysis of Gas Town's structure which I shared specifically for the purpose of writing a comment explaining why Gas Town can't possibly do what it's supposed to do. My conclusion is sneer enough, I think:

When we strip away the LLMs, the underlying structure [of Gas Town] can be mapped to a standard process-supervision tree rather than some new LLM-invented object.

I think it's worth pointing out that our guy is crashing out primarily because of this post about integrating with Bluesky, where he fails to talk down to a woman who is trying to use an open-source system as documented. You have to keep in mind that Lobsters is the Polite Garden Party and we have to constantly temper our words in order to be acceptable there. Our guy doesn't have the constitution for that.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

it's the Polite Garden Party where the loud AI salesmen are welcome

that's lobster's brand now

i'm sure pushcx will consider carefully then do nothing effective, much as he did with the Nazis

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 5 points 17 hours ago

It certainly feels like there's been a concerted push to concern-troll about anti-AI sentiment on lobste.rs. Every day I recalibrate if it's worth keeping my account there.

[–] macroplastic@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I find his posts as of late extremely disappointing.

I truly think the Rust Programming Language is an outstanding piece of technical writing (due credit to Carol Nichols as well) and commend a lot of the outreach and projects he's been a part of, but recently his takes are all purely beige prose bemoaning "the discourse" around LLMs and ATproto while making every excuse to hype up the tech.

The comment thread that inspired his dramatic exit was so mild that I don't understand how anyone can take his claims at face value.

[–] istewart@awful.systems 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I get the impression, especially these last few months, that Klabnik is undertaking a heavily couched form of political speech. He appears to be deeply uncomfortable with anyone who would question the cloud-based, de facto centralized and commercially enclosed development and usage patterns that have built his career, and that informed ATProto's heavyweight participation requirements as well as the entire AI-startup market. But rather than opening himself to that broader conversation, he instead attempts to manipulate these discussions by pathologizing individuals with whom he's having a disagreement, on top of throwing in questionable arguments from authority.

Consider, for instance, lecturing quips like "Because you don't always get to pick when you ship" or "They did extensive research on what was out there..." etc. from the lobsters thread. No room to discuss the confused product/protocol approach that Bluesky is taking, or that the "move fast break things" logic that one might apply to a web app does not really fit developing and documenting a broader protocol, if that's what Bluesky is really trying to create. No room to question that this approach may have harmfully skewed the Bluesky team's thinking about what they really need. It's an echo of A16Z's intentionally braindead "just build things" rhetoric, where the "builders" (formerly "founders") are above reproach.

That is an incredibly weaselly way of approaching public dialogue, and has strongly impacted my trust in him for the worse. I think he probably feels a strong need to be perceived as level-headed and civil ("Quiet, Calm, and Sincere" as Something Awful's community-complains subforum used to be called), as long experience leads a lot of internet denizens to fear discussion forums dying in a flamewar spiral, but uhhh... he's not meeting that bar.

[–] mawhrin@awful.systems 3 points 16 hours ago

it's funny to contrast his lobsters comment to his banter on bluesky, where he's feels less constrained to be plain nasty (nora's blog is sephiroth-posting, nora has an axe to grind etc. etc.)

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 5 points 1 day ago

I think it’s worth pointing out that our guy is crashing out primarily because of this post about integrating with Bluesky,

I've never bothered getting into ATproto arguments. They always have a faint air of fashwashing over them. Or it's a bit like Urbit where only those in the know are welcome.