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And you see how that makes it seem like you're defending that behavior right? By sane-washing it? By making it seem like an appropriate "solution" instead of the bad behavior it is?
The point was more that the argument of "no phones allowed" doesn't really make a sex-on-drug party any worse.
Nobody points to Al Capone sane-washing tax-fraud. Nobody argues about what an evil cunt he was based on his tax returns either. It was just the logical consequence of his racketeering, violence and general mob-boss-ness. The only reason people know about his tax fraud is because it's how he got caught. From a moral perspective, it makes no difference in how people consider his character.
Similarly, in this discussion about sexual abuse, not allowing phones backstage at a Lindemann afterparty is of no real consequence. You wouldn't be allowed to bring a phone to a drug party, whether it's organised by Charles Manson or the freaking pope. I wouldn't go to a gay orgy in Brussels expecting to keep my phone around, it's just part of the package.
Now if there wasn't any drugs backstage and you still weren't allowed to bring your phone, yeah, I think that would be a red flag, because the obvious reason for it is now missing.