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[–] rook@awful.systems 11 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

I have mixed feelings about this one: The Enclosure feedback loop (or how LLMs sabotage existing programming practices by privatizing a public good).

The author is right that stack overflow has basically shrivelled up and died, and that llm vendors are trying to replace it with private sources of data they'll never freely share with the rest of us, but I don’t think that chatbot dev sessions are in any way “high quality data”. The number of occasions when a chatbot-user actually introduces genuinely useful and novel information will be low, and the ability of chatbot companies to even detect that circumstance will be lower still. It isn’t enclosing valuable commons, it is squirting sealant around all the doors so the automated fart-huffing system and its audience can’t get any fresh air.

[–] istewart@awful.systems 5 points 11 hours ago

I don’t think that chatbot dev sessions are in any way “high quality data”.

Yeah, Gas Town is being belabored to death, but it must be reiterated that I doubt the long-term value proposition of "Kubernetes fan fiction"

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I also didn't find the argument very persuasive.

The LLM companies aren't paying anythnig for content. Why should they stop scraping now?

[–] rook@awful.systems 8 points 10 hours ago

Oh, they won’t. It’s just that they’ve already killed the golden goose, and no-one is breeding new ones, and they need an awful lot of gold still.