Privacy

44952 readers

706 users here now

A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.

Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.

In this community everyone is welcome to post links and discuss topics related to privacy.

Some Rules

Posting a link to a website containing tracking isn't great, if contents of the website are behind a paywall maybe copy them into the post
Don't promote proprietary software
Try to keep things on topic
If you have a question, please try searching for previous discussions, maybe it has already been answered
Reposts are fine, but should have at least a couple of weeks in between so that the post can reach a new audience
Be nice :)

Related communities

much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)

founded 6 years ago

MODERATORS

Government Surveillance on Chinese vs US made phones (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 day ago by tapdattl@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

41 comments fedilink hide all child comments

Question that I've been mulling over recently: My threat model dictates that I'm more likely to be surveilled by the US government than by the Chinese government. We can also assume that the Chinese government is not going to cooperate with the US government in any investigations of potential activist activity.

Would it not be best, then, to use a Chinese-made phone that, even though we know that information is going to China, we can also assume that any backdoors in the system are unknown to the US Gov?

I'm interested in everyone's take on this.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments

[–] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

In America the justice system leans strongly in favour of the defence (unless you're poor, but we'll put that aside for now). In China and east Asia more generally the justice system leans towards maintaining social harmony even if it means a higher risk of convicting the wrong person.

[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 4 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

In America the justice system leans strongly in favour of the defence (unless you’re poor, but we’ll put that aside for now)

Neat trick the tankies hate: the West is perfect if you just say that the biggest counterexample is irrelevant!

There's definitely an algorithm that decides if any arbitrary algorithm will halt or not (unless you feed its own source code back into itself, but we'll put that aside for now).

[–] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 0 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

I'm explaining the cultural difference, not judging one as better or worse. America is more individualist and China is more collectivist.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This seems more like orientalism than an actual thing. The US is set up that way because it values capitalists above all else as a capitalist country, and this system puts them above the law.