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Privacy for me has been incredibly rewarding, but when talking to people who haven't been introduced to privacy, there are occasionally some moments that make it exhausting. One conversation in particular is one that I've had to go through dozens of times, and it always goes along these lines:

  • Alice: Why is your phone in airplane mode? / What's your phone number?
  • Bob: I don't have a carrier.
  • Alice: But you have a phone.
  • Bob: Yes.
  • Alice: How do you not have a carrier?
  • Bob: Phones can come without a carrier.
  • Alice: What do you use it for?
  • Bob: Everything you use yours for.
  • Alice: How do you talk to people?
  • Bob: Messaging apps over Wi-Fi.
  • Alice: What if you don't have Wi-Fi?
  • Bob: Public Wi-Fi is everywhere. If I don't have Wi-Fi, I likely don't need to get in touch.
  • Alice: What about emergencies?
  • Bob: I can still contact emergency services.

Each time it happens, it has a unique flavor. One person accused me of lying and then fraud. I know people are just curious and don't mean to be rude, but it makes me die a little inside every time someone asks. I've begun trying to sidestep the conversation entirely:

  • Alice: Why is your phone in airplane mode?
  • Bob: To save battery.

or:

  • Alice: What's your phone number?
  • Bob: You can contact me with an app called Signal.

People seem to think that a phone automatically comes with a carrier and that it'll stop working if you don't have one. In reality, I'm saving hundreds of dollars per year while avoiding spam, fraud, breaches, surveillance, and being chronically online. People have a hard time coping with those who do things a little differently.

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[–] Clairvoidance@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

hundreds of dollars per year? That's how much a carrier is over there??

[–] Charger8232@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

That’s how much a carrier is over there??

Yes. The "poverty" option is $15/month, but plans can easily go up to $100 or more per month. Out of curiosity, how much are they charging across the pond?

[–] gerryflap@feddit.nl 1 points 3 hours ago

Damn what the hell. I'm Dutch and I pay less than €12 euros. For that I get 100 call minutes/messages and 6 GB. Neither of which I ever really get close to. Calling is mostly just in case of emergency or when we need to align something right now. And data is always useful because I definitely do not have free wifi anywhere. Do you never leave a big city or something? If I slip with my bike on an icy road and break something in the middle of nowhere it's kinda good to have some way of communicating.

[–] axus@lemmy.ca 5 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm paying over $100 per month for 3 lines. 4th line is $6 a month from Tello

[–] Humorless4483@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

How much data do you have at that price ? I’m paying 19€/month for 4 lines, 3 at 5€/month with 30Gb and one at 4€/month for 25Gb

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

Damn that's cheap. I pay $50/month per person, for unlimited

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I'm on a popular discount carrier, and it's ~$30/month. One of the big three carriers will easily charge $100/month.

Most people will try to find a family plan that lowers the cost per user but it comes with big caveats like long-ish term contracts and some nasty fine-print. And if your carrier gets bought out, which is happening a lot, you never know what changes might get force fed to you