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It's safe to assume that the enemy is promoting propaganda while our noble nation is promoting the truth!!! \s
The difference is that I don't get banned/censored on western instances for criticizing Trump or US military interventions.
criticizing trump or us military interventions is pretty much all i do on ml, grad, hexbear
i eventually leave or get banned from the anarcho lib comms for doing that.
Well sure you can criticize Trump there. But try criticizing the CCCP, China, or Russia.
You can criticize them as long as you aren't doing so from a liberal, anti-communist perspective. The genuine flaws of existing socialism are better analyzed by those that actually study socialism and socialist countries.
Ive been banned for criticzing the PRC explictly from a socialist perspective.
You were temp-banned, for dogmatically repeating debunked claims pushed by liberals, in the face of evidence to the contrary. You appear to be free to comment there.
Didnt know it was temp. Thank you
One was more despite the evidence of clear worker rights violations that was argued was fine because the state is "the workers". The second I got called to provide evidence (which sure no probs there) but then silenced lmao. Super frustrating.
What you called "clear worker rights violations," was just the fact that unions are required to be a part of the All-China Federation of Trade Unions, and aren't allowed to be independent from that federation. This isn't a violation of worker rights, though, as the only purpose rogue unions would serve is undermining the socialist system, and would be vulnerable to foreign backing (such as from the US Empire).
The socialist state is already run by the working classes, I recommend Roland Boer's Socialism in Power: On the Theory and History of Socialist Governance to get a better idea of how and why socialist countries hold the structures they do. Roland Boer also has a good book called Socialism with Chinese Characteristics: A Guide for Foreigners, which is more specifically about the PRC and goes beyond the structures of governance to the more broad system of socialism in China.
Regarding your participation in MeanwhileOnGrad, you should know that EmoPunker cut off the final replies, where they called defenders of Pol Pot "genuine socialists." These are the kinds of posts on that comm, they selectively remove context that makes themselves look worse, deliberately misframe reasonable comments, and the comm itself is run by a zionist. This kind of anti-communist bar is a gathering spot for genuine fascists, but it seems you're fine with participating there.
I'm curious if you have any good video essays, I really enjoy learning while doing things, which is much more difficult with reading, though I have started Socialism With Chinese Characteristics and it is interesting!
Not nearly as in-depth due to time limits (and mostly focused on the Xi Jinping era) but Red Pen's A Summary of Xi Jinping's Governance of China can be a good primer! There's also This is how China's economic model works: Explaining Socialism with Chinese Characteristics by Geopolitical Economy Report.
Really, in order to understand the PRC, you at least need to understand Mao, the Gang of Four, Deng Xiaoping, and Xi Jinping. There were other leaders, but these have perhaps had the largest impact on the PRC of today. Xi Jinping Thought upholds Mao Zedong Thought and Deng Xiaoping Theory, while believing the Gang of Four to have been left-deviationists and the Cultural Revolution to have contained more excess than was worth.
Also, the Prolewiki page for Socialism with Chinese Characteristics: A Guide for Foreigners is pretty poorly formatted, and extremely lengthy, so I recommend either going to the anna's archive link and downloading the source directly, or reading these:
Qiao Collective's Introductory Socialism with Chinese Characteristics Study Guide
Socialism with Chinese Characteristics ProleWiki page
Socialist Market Economy ProleWiki Page
People's Republic of China ProleWiki Page
My "Read Theory, Darn It!" Introductory Marxist-Leninist Reading Guide
Has China Turned to Capitalism? Reflections on the Transition from Capitalism to Socialism by Domenico Losurdo
China Has Billionaires by Roderic Day
The Long Game and its Contradictions
Imperialism, The Highest Stage of Capitalism by Vladimir Lenin
Super-Imperialism: The Origins and Fundamentals of U.S. World Dominance by Michael Hudson
Marxism is a Science by Deng Xiaoping
Regarding the Construction of Socialism With Chinese Characteristics by Xi Jinping
I'll check these out soon, thanks!
And yeah the formatting was rough lmao, I'll check some of those out!
No problem! The material is great, but unfortunately it needs to be formatted on Prolewiki, haha.
Fair point those workers trying to organize against unfair labor practices would undermine the state. The state was surely handling super well already actually. /s
Thank you for the reads though i will check those out even if we disagree on this so fat
Rogue unions aren't simply "workers trying to organize against unfair labor practices," though, which is my point. There are already unions, and the state already punishes bad actors. There's extremely minimal grassroots opposition to the socialist system in China, so recognizing this context is important.
And no problem, let me know if you have any questions!
we have reservations about, and criticize them all the time.
what i don't really see being tolerated is insistent propaganda talking points or trolling, and even then most will talk to you if you are reasonable.
Insistent propaganda talking points and trolling are tolerated if they are from the Russian or China/CCP perspective. Honestly that's about all there is on their news or politics discussions.
communists will mostly discuss communism and related
Well that would be all well and good if you were discussing communism. But you are simping for authoritarian regimes that are not at all communist such as Russia. There's a word for that, it's "tankies".
russia is not communist! genius geopolitical analysis right there, you are correct. beyond the strawmen, you simp for the us empire. there's also a word for that, it's "fascists".
I can and do
You don't get banned on hex, grad, or ml for it either, either. People should really check the mod logs a few times daily.
I've gotten banned and censored from communities there for saying that Ukraine should fight back against Russia.
Unfortunately for you, the modlog is public
Yeah so check it.
You were temp banned, usually those are for a few days for the person to cool down. The removed comment was part of a chain advocating for the collective punishment of russian civilians
Where did I say civilians? That's just the pretext they used to silence any words against Russia.
What do you think people need to be punished implies?
Asking as have seen way too many say it totally only means the bad ones especially when talking about areas they believe everyone in the area are fair game
I didn't use those words. Stop putting words in my mouth. If you can't make the case with the words I actually said, you can't make the case.
I mean taking out oil facilities, energy facilities, government facilities, and homes of politicians and military leaders who support the war. But in St. Petersburg and Moscow.
So we are using your words, you just don't like how people react to what you are saying.
This goes back to those that think it's okay to blow shit up if it belongs to the bad people. Also see how Israelis see their neighbors
Yes those are my words. I never said anything about attacking civilians. Maybe I should have elaborated, but I was talking about hitting Moscow and St. Petersburg. The other guy was talking about civilians. Just because someone puts up a straw man and I didn't immediately tear it down doesn't mean I said something.
But this is what it's like on .ml. Someone will twist your argument into something that can get you banned without you even saying the words that you are getting banned for. It's a worthless place to be.
Your deleted comment was also about nothing will change until the people feel it when talking about how Ukraine needs to hit Russian cities.
Which gets back to asking what you think people are if not civilians.
It's not a strawman when you start with bomb the cities
They will feel it when they see targets in their cities being hit. And I've already told you what targets I meant.
Which again gets back to do you not care or think about the people living in the cities?
Or it okay as long as a legal order? Cause there's others on lemmy who love to say that's fine even if order is to target civilians
Yes it's okay as long as it's a legal order. And there are plenty of legal targets in Moscow and St. Petersburg.
So you see how people react to that and go wow that person wants to be able to kill civilians?
Especially after saying and I quote
it's fine if a legal order?
Edit
Oh people quoting you is probably what you meant by
If you want to give an example of what an .ml mindfuck, being taken out of context and banned is like, congrats you have succeeded.
So you think it's legal to expressly target civilians?
And no one could quote me saying the things they said I did because I didn't.
This is literally what was removed and the entire argument/question. Do you think people are okay targets if in wrong country, and it's yes.
Again it was if it's a legal order is it okay for them to kill people or civilians and you said yes. But now that you see it you're not too no I totally meant not if being specifically targeted, but it's fine if they're collateral
Like fuck how does this keep happening, especially from the ones calling ml a shit hole
I think we have a misunderstanding. I meant legal by international law. It is not legal by international law to target civilians. So no, I do not think it's okay to target civilians, full stop.
But yes this is very much how .ml feels. Twisting words to achieve some sort of propaganda win. Excellent job there.
In the linked chain, repeatedly.
It's amazing how many don't see people as civilians simply because live in the wrong spot
That is untrue. I never said it. And for the record I only believe in hitting military targets and those of politicians and military officials involved in the war.
Also I think you are cherry picking. They have censored me more times than that. Maybe it was on my now defunct lemm.ee account.
Ok. Anyone can easily click the link to verify that you're lying, so I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish.
Yes they can see I did not
So, again, I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish by lying about this.
I don't know what you are trying to accomplish by lying about this.
Lol. "I know you are but what am I!"
That's a US military intervention.
Ah. Enlightened centrism.