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How could I have defended the "human nature" argument better? (lemmygrad.ml)
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Got into a discussion with a friend who is a biologist about the "human nature" argument against communism. My best shot was saying that we used to live in a sort of proto communism so the evidence of it working are there. He didn't accept that argument and basicly said that due to natural selection, competition etc. and that all social structures eventually disolve.

I didn't have good ideas on how to respond after that.

EDIT: Forgot the question, how could I have defended this argument more?

EDIT2: I read each and every comment anyone posts, I just can't respond to all of you, thanks so much for the explanations it really goes to show how awesome this community is.

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[–] Commiejones@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 month ago

Human nature is just like animal nature. Eat, drink, sleep, fuck, piss, shit, die. That is all there is to it. Everything after that is learned societal conditioning.

Is it cat's and dog's nature to fight one another? no. There are plenty of cat and dogs that get along. There are dogs who like cats and dogs that hate cats and vis versa and it has to do with their life experiences not their biology.

What he thinks of as "human nature" is not natural it is a product of a distinct environment. Environments change and the societal norms they produce change along with them.