Signal, telegram etc have the same problematic architectures. Of those kinds of solutions, I like Threema best, but nobody uses them (which is only a problem because of their architecture).

So I wanted to get a solution with a decentralized architecture, pretty much like the fediverse.

From what I can see, the fediverse activityPub with MLS layer project (to enable fediverse end-to-end encrypted messaging) is still in the functional documentation stage.

So, what do you think of Element as a messenger (which uses matrix protocol)?

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[–] erebion@news.erebion.eu 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's nice to see bridging efforts, but for me it has never been as reliable as XMPP transports, which have been around for years and also support real forms for logging in and configuring things. :D

The mautrix bridges never worked well for me, but slidge.im is great with my own XMPP server and requires a fraction of the resources. I can only recommend that to anyone looking into bridges. :)

[–] troed@fedia.io 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ok. I'm using the Mautrix bridges and find them to work really well.

[–] erebion@news.erebion.eu 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is it still pasting cookies into chats to configure them?

[–] troed@fedia.io 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No.

https://github.com/mautrix/manager

[–] erebion@news.erebion.eu 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Seriously, an Elenctron app just for logging in?

Why?

Why would anyone ever design an Electron app just for logging in? WTF?

[–] troed@fedia.io 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you don't want an easy solution feel free to use the more difficult one.

[–] erebion@news.erebion.eu 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I use a simple and sane solution: Forms. Unfortunately, that's not yet supported by the Matrix specification, but the XMPP standard has an XEP for that. No separate software required for login.

I hope the Matrix standard will also incorporate that idea at some point. They've already added so many ideas from XMPP, I'm confident that one would be especially great to also add there. :)

We also need interoperability between the two, they have very similar goals and we should decrease fracturing for IM. Just imagine how large the combined user-base could be!