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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by mycorrhiza@lemmy.ml to c/politics@hexbear.net

no need to write an essay or anything

some libs and baby leftists are kinda baffled by the trump banter here and don't know what's serious and what's irony

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[-] StalinwasaGryffindor@hexbear.net 94 points 1 year ago

Trump is a grotesque monster, but he’s hated by libs not for vile actions, but because he was rude. We don’t value civility here, so we can laugh at him when he’s funny, but he and every living American president deserves to be tried in The Hague

[-] Millie@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

See, this is why I don't trust y'all. How can you pretend to be leftist when to you the fundamental difference between Trump and any other political administration is literally just that he's rude.

How is it that nothing else, from the rights of workers and of oppressed minorities to the protection of the environment to access to health care and education, means anything?

If none of that means anything more than being rude or not, you're not a leftist. You're a cosplayer.

[-] StalinwasaGryffindor@hexbear.net 52 points 1 year ago

Here’s one more difference between trump and other presidents: he was less harmful than bush and probably Clinton and Obama. Clinton was responsible for turning the Democratic Party into the neoliberal garbage it is now, bush killed hundreds of thousands of people and devastated multiple countries, and Obama oversaw one of the greatest transfers of wealth from the poorest to the richest the world has ever seen

[-] silent_water@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

also what Obama/Clinton did in Libya is an unspeakably horrifying crime. just thinking about it makes me shake with rage. also Yemen.

[-] StalinwasaGryffindor@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago

Absolutely. All of them have so much blood on their hands and I will celebrate their deaths with glee. It will be a small pleasure compared to the countless lives they extinguished and cast into poverty but it’s all I can expect when it comes these monster

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

Yeah, Obiden killed hundreds of thousands of Yemenis in a war that started under Obama and mostly concluded under Biden, not because of Joe's humanitarianism, but because Saudi and Iran made some kind of peace deal.

[-] mah@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago

you are forgetting clinton war crimes in europe (serbia) and obama war crimes in north africa (libya)

[-] StalinwasaGryffindor@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

You’re absolutely correct. There’s probably even more, I was trying to highlight what I think were their most influential actions of each of their terms. It’s a bleak exercise though

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