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[–] scala@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What's app claims E2EE but it's not really they store everything on their servers that any one of their staff can access at any point

[–] GalacticSushi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Your cloud backups are not encrypted either, and you have to explicitly opt out of cloud backups. That means any chats or group chats that involve someone who hasn't opted out are sitting unencrypted on Meta servers, even if you personally have opted out. Even if everyone has opted out and assume it's encrypted, they still know who you're talking to, when you talk to them, how frequently, etc.

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it -5 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

it’s absolutely true actually… whatsapp are the key holders and there was a leak a few weeks ago that showed meta staff can access anyone’s messages: they just need to raise a ticket and they get access to an app that allows them to pull up any user they like

this is always the case unless you’re the keyholder. any app where you can “forgot password” and get your data back you aren’t the key-holder (though recovery phrases are legitimate), or login simply via phone number and an SMS MFA or similar

it’s also true for apple stuff - despite being similarly encrypted - but they’ve at least on the surface displayed a willingness to protect user data from external threats

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it -4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There was no leak. It was an ex employee who claimed that others were able to access everyone's messages.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 3 points 20 hours ago

so… whistleblower

… that’s called a leak mate

[–] Zeon@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Regardless, the app is proprietary. You shouldn't trust it.