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[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe we can use this as an opportunity to use different tools for different purposes. Text chat is the easy part, evidently. The issues seem to be around voice/video/group chat on one side, and forums/wikis on the other.

What we need to recognize for one thing is how Discord makes it easy to host info repositories, but sucks at making that stuff accessible. We need a decentralized platform that makes it easy for someone to sign up and create their own forums and wikis in a user-friendly point and click manner that Discord does, but makes those same hubs optionally public and viewable for users without having to join anything.

Then for more live-oriented stuff, Matrix is already the most mature, established, closest thing to Discord we have. We just need it to be better at voice, video, screen-sharing, etc. If I understand correctly, that's already being worked on.

Hell, maybe the former could very well be implemented on top of Matrix itself even.

[–] Batman@lemmy.world 1 points 4 minutes ago

I absolutely love matrixs UI, but I wish they would make the device verification configurable. aware it's a million times easier to say then implement though.

[–] amateurcrastinator@lemmy.world 52 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

We need to bring back the forum platforms. That is how communities looked and it was great

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 24 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

It was so great, people ditched it immediately the second any alternative arrived.

[–] carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Discord is just objectively terrible for knowledge. It's not search indexable or archivable. It's more or less a memory hole.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world -1 points 50 minutes ago (1 children)

I hope you're not implying an old forum search was any good

Most decent forums were publicly readable online and thus got indexed by actually decent search engines unlike discord. Hence "search indexable"

I'm not sure why people think that discord search is some kind of gotcha. Its shit.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 12 points 6 hours ago

I mean the masses are pretty fucking stupid and I don't think following them is a good strategy for life.

Also, reddit was and somehow still is pretty popular and stack exchange is being killed by AI not discord, so that's not really accurate anyways.

[–] amateurcrastinator@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

maybe you are right. i think people just forgot about it because of all the noise and because all these new platforms force bad habits. just imagine if those platforms didn't exist where would openai and anthropic be without all that stackexchange/stackoverflow data scraping.

[–] baatliwala@lemmy.world 26 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Discord became big because of the seamless audio / video / screen sharing. Forums are not even in the same stratosphere.

[–] amateurcrastinator@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

i know, but for casual conversations and banter and a place where to store some knowledge about some topics forums were awesome.

[–] baatliwala@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Forums work for knowledge storage, but for casual banter real time conversations trump everything

[–] sakuraba@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

yeah, forums are cool but I remember changing to another medium like MSN Messenger to do real time conversations

[–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 hours ago

Yea... Forums were (are) great for something that Discord isn't great at...

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 9 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

The old bulletins of the pre2000s. ASCII art every where.

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[–] BodyPower@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Can Stoat be used as an alternative?

[–] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

As an EU co, how will they navigate age verification

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 14 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

EU doesn't require age verification (yet). It's exclusively British thing for now, and we fight hard to keep it this way

[–] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Oh, good, ty. I just made an account last night and will check it out to see if it fits my needs, but this was nagging in the back of my head as others have just decided to bend the knee regardless of jurisdiction.

[–] sakuraba@lemmy.ml 1 points 56 minutes ago

just decided to bend the knee regardless of jurisdiction.

yeah, I understand why companies do this tho

from their side it is cheaper to just put the same measures and requirements for every legislation and in discord's case this is the perfect opportunity to get more data from their users

[–] betahack@lemmy.world 33 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

what are the best alternatives for non-tech folks to join and use?... because that's who I am going to have to convince

[–] stressballs@lemmy.zip 11 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Spacebar.chat is a really easy one to join that I found. And it's really a straight clone of Discord but without all the crap. It's decentralized so you can self host or join and instance and start your own "server" on there.

You don't have to understand any of that to use. It just works and looks like Discord.

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[–] thesmokingman@programming.dev 31 points 19 hours ago

It’s very important to call out this dude either doesn’t understand what a community is or comes from this new generation that thinks docs should be on Discord and not easily accessible.

Functionality: can it do everything required of a platform for building, organizing, and sustaining a community?

Somehow Discord gets a 4 there. A chat server is a community of a kind but it will never rise the level of a platform’s community because it is, by definition, somewhat ephemeral and just a bunch of chat logs. There’s a big difference for example between IRC and bash.org for things like AzureDiamond.

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