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[–] Batman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

just from my reading of papers, optimized patterns make use of the fact that detectors (even modern transformer based architectures) are capital S Sensitive to the sillouette of an object.

in my other comment i linked a paper where they fool modern detectors with 80+% success rate. the clothing looks like a tiedye shirt to me. not fashionable, but not drawing attention either. if there is a way that you can make this fashionable is not a question i can answer :p

from my reading combining detectors (ensembling) does not help. this leaves spies with a problem, how to detect these noisy people without losing performance on normal nonnoisy people. there are tricks to this, but they are limited at best, for the same reason the noise worked in the first place. here is the reason.

assume noise makers create noise with methods A,B,C. you train on a dataset with images from the different noise makers (you don't know which method they used). each of these noisy groups will have a distict sillouette you can detect, but together, you are building a function like:

pineapple: fruit bannana: fruit apple: fruit

this is a solvable problem for ml, so how do the noise makers win ultimately? randomization in the process. if each noise is distinct there is no training, you only have one image per type of fruit, you might as well use traditional CV to detect these noisy people (good luck).

My opinion is i want a product where the customer provides a random seed which generates the process of noise generation for their shirt. the product is the transparency into how the seed effected the noise making, and an evaluation of the noise on modern off the shelf detectors.

obviously we don't see that here, but it seems doable, maybe a business idea for me? haha

[–] Batman@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

this is the most recent arxiv paper on adversarial clothing (since a lot of people are speculating about if it's possible): [2511.16020] Physically Realistic Sequence-Level Adversarial Clothing for Robust Human-Detection Evasion https://share.google/VMhtGB8P2kTMorGx6

they boast an 80%+ success rate at evading the instance level (each time you walk past an ai enabled camera) detection with sequential models (more difficult to fool as they see more of your sillouette).

not saying they are fashionable and obviously aren't commercially available yet, but it definitely seems possible.

my main complaint is i wish these companies could make a good baseline so we could compare their efficacy. evaluating the trade off with the level of drip.

[–] Batman@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

look at Mister 7 minutes over here. the Olympics called they want their stamina back

[–] Batman@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

i keep putting books in front of my girlfriend like a moonstone, but it never works.

[–] Batman@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

military contractors go brrr

[–] Batman@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

I do get that this is the real differentiator to businesses in a chat app. how much it spies on employees. we need to unionize yesterday in tech

[–] Batman@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

yeah dude, fuck you OP

[–] Batman@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

it looped back atleast

[–] Batman@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

maybe they were all shot down due to sampling bias? would have been B XVII .

[–] Batman@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

As a math major who passed all entry exams, spent nearly a year cold emailing and applying it seems more appropriate to steer stats students toward data science at this point.

[–] Batman@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

a fulfilled life

[–] Batman@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

hEs NoT a Cc ePTiNg AsALERY

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