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I love the idea. Scares the shit out of me.
I’m not as concerned with these things starting house fires, but I want to explain that away first. I’m a little weak on the science, but my understanding of how these work is that they attune to the grid frequency and voltage to deliver power at a slightly lower frequency than what is provided by your wall plug. This allows them to augment your home power use without refeeding power into the local grid. IIRC, if there’s no wall power, they only offer power through outlets on the devices themselves, vs through the wall plugs.
And, I think that the above safety feature will prevent over-amperage situations for in-house wiring loops, since the device cannot exceed the power delivery of the circuit it’s plugged into, when operating normally.
These things scare the shit out of me because the U.S. power grid is badly under-engineered. Before actual electrical engineers hunt me down and kill me, think of building a bridge. You can do that by just pouring a billion tons of concrete into a ravine. But building something that is material and budget conscious while being safe enough to avoid lawsuits is not what I’m getting at. (Think of the phrase “Anyone can build a bridge, but not anyone can build a bridge that barely stands.”)
It’s a feature, not a bug. Otherwise, power lines would be I-Beams and we’d have some sort of insane switching technology to isolate and shut off every single segment of the grid.
But we don’t! Homes are never disconnected from the grid unless specialized hardware is installed at the meter to disconnect them. (Which happens for distributed/co-generation scenarios.)
The existence of always connected power generation or storage sources as a potential threat vector is well known. In 2023, it caused a minor kerfluffle as several brands of EV chargers were shown to be easily hackable and as few as 300 of them could be used to take down a regional power grid. Not everyone can afford an EV, and usually those users are a tad more tech savvy. They generally are not buying third party chargers, anyway.
But the rate of adoption for these devices could be significantly higher. The law of averages being what it is, I think these pose a much higher threat to the grid from hacking. Everyone loves apps. No one thinks about security. They could easily exploited, rooted, and have their safety features disabled. Who needs 300 EV’s when you have 300,000 balcony chargers?
Funnily enough, these would be in high demand if the U.S. grid got fried. It would take years to undo the damage.
I appreciate your hesitation. I do think that we're gonna continue to see the shift in warfare to attacking civilians through infrastructure, like what Russia is doing to Ukraine right now by knocking out the power and heat to homes to kill as many vulnerable people as possible, and we make a much easier target than anything military exactly like you said. The sheer variability in people's views on personal security is enough to give a person with the drive and smarts a way in, never mind how they actually behave.
Caution is warranted, and so is starting to legislate and produce balcony solar products. The first model year of any new car is a stress test, and they take the problems owners have had and work to refine it. Similarly, I don't install a brand new operating system without at least one or two updates under its belt. 😅 We can do the same for balcony solar to harden it against hacking and improve safety, but I think it's valid to worry about whether or not the grid itself could cope with an attack. Like Jesus, would it ever suck to find out it couldn't after the fact!
You are vastly overestimating how much power actually gets generated by these panels.
Also, basically every assumption made in the first paragraph is incorrect.
Like I said, I’m weak on the science. I’m more of a computer person.
Most of what I know is based on either a Practical Engineering or Matt Ferrell video, but I’m interested in the topic, if a little too busy to dig deeply enough to get past the marketing. If you have a good info source on the matter, I’d love to check it out.
With that said, the first paragraph is not really applicable to my concern, which is that a grid connected panel + battery could be hacked. En masse, they could dump power onto the grid and fry transformers or take out substations. (Which smarter people than I have identified as a concern, re: EV chargers.)
Hm. Imprecise on my part.
The panels aren’t the concern. It’s stored energy in the battery that can be dumped onto the grid, along with the stored energy of other compromised systems.
The article I linked outlines a scenario like what I’m describing being possible with EV’s that have had their chargers hacked.