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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Egon@hexbear.net to c/the_dunk_tank@hexbear.net

"Some of you may be willing to die, but that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make" but unironically

Edit: The user has since apologised https://hexbear.net/comment/3848285

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[-] Egon@hexbear.net 98 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Whoops I cut off their reply halfway thru.

I know you all hate Ukraine and think they should lay down and let Russia steamroll into Kiev and annex the whole country. But reality doesn't always reflect your geopolitical wet dreams.

Geopolitics is when you think people shouldn't die in a senseless war. It's also somehow unrealistic

[-] lesseva96@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago

Yeah they should just submit to a genocidal invader! That's WAY better than dying!

[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 56 points 1 year ago
[-] lesseva96@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

The intentional destruction of a people in whole or in part. Russia is doing that to Ukraine.

[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 81 points 1 year ago

We have evidence of Ukraine banning the use of the Russian language, import of Russian books, Russian music, the banning of "pro-Russian" political parties. So we know Ukraine is engaging in what could be called cultural genocide. I'd love to see your evidence of actual genocide happening, though. I'm sure it's real!

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[-] ZoomeristLeninist@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago
[-] lesseva96@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Well the Russians have been stealing Ukranian children and forcibly adopting them into Russian families to rob them of their national identity. They've been bombing civilian population centers and infrastructure. Putin put out this silly speech in which he claims that Ukrainians are just confused Russians and that's why they need to come back into the fold (and just let their country and identity be destroyed). Lotsa proof there. I think the fact you haven't found any and are still asking belies your biases (you're probably another fucking Kremlin stooge).

[-] jack@hexbear.net 55 points 1 year ago

They've been bombing civilian population centers and infrastructure

By this metric all war is genocide

[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago

So the western liberal believes that orphans should be left in a war zone?

[-] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

Ukraine uses child soldiers and brag about it so it's a wholesome thing now I guess.

[-] lesseva96@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Are you saying that there are only two options? You either leave them to die or indoctrinate them into Russian families? No in-between?

[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago

You know the Russians are contacting family members and reuniting children with families, right? https://www.rferl.org/a/ukrainian-children-returned-illegal-deportations-russia/32355290.html They try to frame it in a vicious manner because the liberal brain is soft and easy to manipulate, but the facts are those children were in Russia and given back to their families.

You're just making up unhinged fantasies.

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[-] ZoomeristLeninist@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

what would you do, oh paragon of morality? give them to ur heroic western human traffickers?

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[-] ZoomeristLeninist@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They've been bombing civilian population centers

this is the only part of ur comment that could feasibly be considered genocide and you didnt provide a source. and wikipedia isnt a reliable source

and Ukraine has been bombing civilian centers for the past decade. and that is well documented. maybe Ukraine is the real genocidal power

[-] krolden@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

national identity

[-] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago

No just no. I lot of Ukrainians live in Russia or fled to russia. Russia would've started with them first if they wanted to do something that.

It's a imperialist war at best started to secure a very strategically important location.

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