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[–] jitterted@sfba.social 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

@bluemoon I agree with all of those secondary benefits, but if the buses are free, will the subways also be free? If not, then might there be a large number of folks who switch to buses, which increases traffic, load times, crowding, and travel time? I’m no expert, but I hope that’s taken into account.

I also think perhaps there are better ways to solve problems like time for fare collection with Proof of Payment. And maybe a change in laws that could be more permanent than free bus fare?

Not all surface street bus systems are like NYC, in fact few are, so we can’t just look at cities that aren’t really comparable.

Again, I’m not opposed to the benefits, I’d just want to make sure the whole system is considered.

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 1 points 15 hours ago

Making both free at point of use would be ideal to me too