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Besides a woman's name, Ilya afaik is also the Russian word for a species of flower. But with the little I know of Russian, trying to approach the pronunciation to what I'd expect it to be, it sounds like the female form of Julius, Julia, if I was to pronounce by Norwegian logic, the language not being geographically too far from the Slav ones.

And it wouldn't be the first name I see that changes for some random reason. For example, to my knowledge, the male name Tiago comes from a long line of mispronunciations starting at Jacob/Jacobus.

So going by that, it makes me think, could those two names, Ilya and Julius, be related? Or would their phonetic similarity be a coincidence?

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[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Coincidence. The roots are quite different: PIE *h₁er- versus PS *ʔarṣ́-.

The reason they ended similar is that Proto-Germanic inherited this root with a suffix for stative nouns, as *h₁ertéh₂ (The word probably meant "grounded stuff" or similar, then later the ground itself.) That *t ended as /θ/ through Grimm's Law, English kept it this way, German re-fortified it back to /d/.

Then in the Proto-Semitic side of the things, *ṣ́ was probably /ɬʼ/ or /t͡ɬʼ/. It's probably lateral since back then, because the South Arabian languages kept it as /ɬʼ/; Hebrew and Arabic delateralised it to /t͡s/ and /dˤ/ respectively.

[–] DiscoAssBlazer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thank you! Have had that question for a long time. Appreciate your linguistics content on Lemmy

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

You're welcome! Note there's !linguistics@mander.xyz for more "serious" stuff, like this. (Not that I'll remove serious stuff from here, but still.)

[–] Auster@thebrainbin.org 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Ah. Not sent to me (I think), but I must've misclicked when picking the community to post on, so gomennasorry~ 😣

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 1 points 14 hours ago

Daijokay. Both comms could use more activity anyway :D