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Many of us know how bad modern cars are for privacy. Yet many of our friends and neighbors do not realize how intrusive it really is. I linked a blog entry from Mozilla's investigation about car privacy. In that blog is a link to their make-by-make analysis. The amount of very intimate information a modern car collects is honestly appalling. It includes health data, real time mood information, weight gain or loss, and so on. And it does so even for passengers.

The web has many resources talking about this problem, but almost no resources on what to do about it. I know the simple thing is to say, "just drive an old car bro!" That's fine if you can, but not everyone can. Also it has drawbacks like more maintenance. Sometimes less safety if it's older than certain safety features. For the purpose of this thread, it is more interesting to focus on newer, surveillance enabled cars which are the majority of what people drive on the road today.

Some people have figured out how to bypass the surveillance package on some cars. One way is to uncouple the antenna it uses to phone home. Other times you can bypass the telematics module or remove a fuse that powers it. I feel like we really need a central model by model repository of information.

Past that, how do we prove it has worked, if we do it? Has anyone reading this tried to use an RF detector to see if their car is still trying to phone home, after they have bypassed telematics? What are your experiences? I want to buy one and use it to test my own car, but the info on the web seems sketch.

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 10 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (3 children)

Fun fact: at least one of the fuckcars mods cares deeply about this issue, to the point that he only owns older cars to avoid telemetry.

(Source: it's me, I'm that mod.)

Anyway, don't be shy; feel free to crosspost on-topic stuff like this there yourself if you want!

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Why would a fuckcars mod own a car?

[–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Because I still live in a car-centric shithole country.

Also, I'm a car enthusiast, believe it or not. I think cars should be treated the same way as horses: a fun hobby, but that it's insane to use them for basic transportation. Among the other benefits good urbanism brings, not needing a car makes me free to own interesting ones instead of reliable ones.

[–] greatwhitebuffalo41@slrpnk.net 4 points 7 hours ago

This comment means I'm gonna go sub there lol

[–] FineCoatMummy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 hours ago

Oh, nice. I thought maybe I did it by accident somehow!

I bike everywhere when I can. I'll join the fuckcars group, now that I know about it.