A few of our users have recently pointed out that a lot of the pro-Zionist accounts on the fediverse nowadays seem to come from the feddit.org instance.

But whatever the excuse happens to be, they need to do better imo. Israel is currently the most violent, fascist and genocidal nation state in the Middle East (if you exclude the US military bases there). And yet feddit.org seems to regard the Palestinians fighting against Israel’s ongoing illegal occupation of their land as the real terrorists. ....

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Our instance already voted to ban pro-Zionist accounts (see https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/60585441 for reference) and the rule that was implemented is here: Golden Rule #8.

As further context, you can find relevant comments and discussion in this post by a banned feddit admin in MoG (that fact they chose to post in MoG is in itself quite telling), and this post about their defederation from quokk.au over anti-semitism allegations has recently become active again. ...

Note 2: If you think feddit.org deserves a full instance ban instead, or have alternative suggestions, then please leave your comments below. If enough people think that’s the better option, then we’ll do that instead.

In the end the Post had around 70% of support by dbzer0 users, who in the comments also called for defederation.

Here is a Link to Dbzer0 instances tab https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/instances where if you go to blocked instances you can see fedddit.org is now defederated

i dont think feddit has made a post now, but when they do i will add it

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[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I followed your link. It shows a comment you made, yet with another link to a comment by Emopunker@feddit.org. And you claim that they harass people. The comment by Emopunker shows a screenshot where three usernames are listed that share similarities. Emopunker says that they have the suspicion that the shown users are the same person with alt accounts.

In conclusion: I wonder whether you forgot to attach some context, because based on this alone I don't see anything that support your claims.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

In the thread I linked the thread op and several others were complaining about DM harrassment.

That was happening immidiately after emopunker decided to post the names of three upvoters of the defederation thread in meanwhileongrad, while the vote was still happening.

It's a pretty straightforward chain of events, if you're insisting on seeing nothing I think the problem is between your keyboard and your chair

[–] Zacryon@feddit.org -2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Basing this on a temporal chain of events alone is weak. I'll give you, that there might be a connection: names listed -> harassment started.

That does not mean that Emopunker is responsible though. Could have been another user. Could have been you for all I know. Could also have happened for other reasons. And, there is still the possibility that it might have no connection to this at all.

You'll need to provide some stronger evidence, otherwise I'll take this as baseless accusations and, possibly, a defamation attempt.

Feel free to deliver, especially since you seem to be observing this. I'd like to know whether an admin on the instance I am using is harassing people.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

They posted to the snark comm, the harassment follows. Just because there's no proof they were personally sending the messages doesn't absolve them of responsibility for their actions.

if anything the defamation was coming from emopunker, declaring people upvoting the thread about their instance being zionist as 'the same person' to a snark comm was pretty clearly implying a call to action for someone

[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 2 points 3 hours ago

if anything the defamation was coming from emopunker, declaring people upvoting the thread [...] as 'the same person'

Fair point.

I am on the fence about the 'snark comm' ordeal. I think such communities are – to some degree – meaningful for a critical discourse. Imo, one should be allowed to point out and criticise users, communities, whole instances.

Then again, this should not make someone a target for harassment.

From my pov, it's a question of balancing interests here: civilised criticism is important and should be allowed. Especially in such public spaces. Denying this due to a hazard of making them a target for people who see this as a 'call to action' would suffocate such discussions completely. So I'd address the harassers and sanction them, instead of people who merely point things out they find suspicious, as in this case.

So unless Emopunker directly incited the harassment or did it themselves, I'd lean towards: "yeah, somewhat uncool to throw such accusations in the room without further proof, but that doesn't make them the culprit".