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[–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 8 points 4 days ago (3 children)

This completely and utterly ignores the capitalist pressures that also hit building materials. Just look at wood prices in the US. Prices have skyrocketed outside of the housing supply as well.

TL;DR: Capitalism is cancer on anything required to live, including the vast supply chain for such goods.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That doesn't explain why some nations are functioning better under capitalism than others though.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Because they put limits on capitalism.

It is not all or nothing.

[–] JasSmith@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Here in Denmark we rank higher than the U.S. in ease of doing business. We don't have a minimum wage and it's super easy to fire people. We capitalism harder than America. On the other hand, we offer great safety nets and social services (paid for with high taxes), because we acknowledge that businesses do different things to the state.

I don't think the issue is limiting capitalism. If anything, unleashing capitalism results in competition and amazing products and services. Our tiny nation is a world leader in pharmaceuticals and shipping. Where I think we get it right is ensuring people don't fall through the cracks. Being temporarily unemployed can be hard to navigate and we help people when that happens. We provide free healthcare so no one needs to try to work while sick. We provide free education so that we can specialise in a competitive world. Because people aren't desperate for work, they're able to better negotiate with employers. They can turn down shitty offers and shitty employers. This leads to great workplace conditions for most people and high wages.

[–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

High taxes is limiting capitalism.

[–] JasSmith@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago

I disagree. Capitalism is an economic system based on the private ownership of the means of production and its use for the purpose of obtaining profit. Taxes are not antithetical to capitalism. Neither are unions, public healthcare, unemployment benefits, etc. Capitalism is really good at allocating resources efficiently, but it's not good at helping the vulnerable. That's where government needs to step in.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Sure but what are the specific policies that explain this specific pattern? That's what I'd like to know. Just writing it off as capitalism bad doesn't help, even if it's true.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If that's what you wanted to know, why didn't you ask what the specifics were? All you made was an open ended statement that could be interpreted any number of ways, most of which (in modern colloquial conversation, and this particular context) are going to be viewed as a defense of what the commenter was criticizing.

If you want to have an explicit discussion, ask explicit questions, dont just assume some rando on the internet is going to know your intent.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 days ago

I thought it was sort of implied but you're right I could have been more explicit.

[–] CanadaPlus 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Okay, what's your alternative supply chain design that will make more wood available, without ruining forests? It's not like the prices are actually stopping the wood cut down from being used.

If you drop the prices of wood right now, they just sell out of wood and somebody at random can't get it.

[–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My guy, you're commenting after someone has already offered another source.

[–] CanadaPlus 1 points 1 day ago

Where? All I see is something about ease of doing business in Denmark.

OP is just about relative house supply in Anglophone vs. non-Anglophone OECD countries, which has nothing to do with building supplies, since that varies tremendously just within the Anglosphere (tree-rich Canada vs bare Britain), or capitalism, because nobody's arguing Japan or Italy is a socialist paradise.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 days ago

They’re welcome to buy wood from us Canadians.

Though we are pretty terrible at housing too. Every affordability measure is met with generations taught that their home will be their retirement, who do not want to see prices go down.