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[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Every system can and will get exploited. I am not sure how another economic system will fix this. Assholes will be assholes and if we don't stop them from getting into positions of power this will continue.

Not to say that capitalism isn't a bucket full of shit. But I would argue setting the incentives right, can mitigate damage. The issue is getting this done politically. Which brings us back to assholes (+capitalism) again.

[–] Riverside@reddthat.com 0 points 12 hours ago

I am not sure how another economic system will fix this

You answer yourself shortly afterwards

The issue is getting this done politically

Under socialism, since there are no private owners of companies or oil, there is no incentive for them to lobby the policy in their favour. If you want evidence for this, I could pinpoint you to the People's Republic of China manufacturing some 95% of the world's supply of photovoltaic modules (already the cheapest form of energy available to humanity), spearheading electrification with Ultra-High-Voltage electric transmission lines and battery technology and supply, and leading the current generation of nuclear reactors. In contrast, my capitalist homeland of Spain had a "tax to the sun" during the previous decade that destroyed whatever solar industry we had, because in Spain the fossil fuel lobbyists do have the power to dictate policy, as opposed to China's socialist system.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I am not sure how another economic system will fix this.

Other economic systems have assholes, true, but capitalism is uniquely myopic in this respect. A socialist system would take away the polluters' power to hinder change. There's a reason (still capitalist to be fair) China is a world leader in renewable energy, and that's because they don't have rich and powerful lobbies forcing fossil fuels down people's throats.

But I would argue setting the incentives right, can mitigate damage

Until capitalists use their wealth and power to remove those incentives, which leads us back to "end capitalism." This is the fundamental problem with reformism; under capitalism there will naturally be mechanisms for resisting and winding back said reform, making "nicer" versions of it mere interludes interrupting the crushing boot of exploitation and destruction we all know and love.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

And the rollback of the incentive adjustments isn't theoretical. Incentives got adjusted around The Great Depression in many western countries like in the US and those changes have been slowly rolled back till the 70s, then much more quickly since then. And at breakneck speed since the dissolution of the Soviet bloc.