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Most CHUDs didn't go to underfunded intercity schools with moldy textbooks. They went to well funded suburban middle class schools which, yeah are still US public schools, but still provide better educational opportunities than what most people in the world have.

CHUD aren't fascists because their social studies teacher was underpaid, they're fascists because fascism speaks to them and their values. They are fascists at the end of the day because they like being fascists.

And further more, unless you embrace full hard determinism, you have to view these people as culpable to some extend for the awful politics they support. Yeah, none are immune to propaganda, we are shaped by are culture yadda yadda. But I have to think humans have some capacity of will to rise above their social conditioning, if they're willing didn't society would never evolve or change for the better.

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[–] Juice@midwest.social 2 points 1 day ago

It is bad education, evidenced by fascists actively trying to make schools worse, like it is clearly working. But you're also right that fascism is a nascent tendency within capitalism itself, and manifests primarily in the middle class and poor petty bourg, because the middle class is constantly being crushed by capitalism. As the state in its function to mitigate class antagonisms gets swept away, this tendency becomes more acute and activates the Hitler particles in more and more people.

EU social democracies have much better schools, higher education for lower cost and they still have major viable fascist parties and movements. Education is fundamentally progressive, but there are all different kinds of education, and progress is not a straight line, but more like building something brick by brick. The ruling class has lots of experience systematically stifling forms of education that risk activating genuine contemplation, self actualization, curiosity, social awareness, and class consciousness. This makes it much easier to smuggle in narratives about race, class and immigration that keep the bourg on top and the workers divided