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Yeah, agreed. Go ahead and quote me where I stated that an animal cannot be raped. Artificial insemination of an animal is not rape though.
You're not floundering at all.
We're trying to get to the bottom of why you think forcible impregnation of someone is rape while of a cow isn't.
You said that dogs can be raped, and specifically pet dogs.
I pointed out that there are no differences between pet dogs and stray dogs, and likewise between pet cows and stray cows.
I called you out for holding a subjectivist world view because the outcome of raping a pet dog and a stray dog, or pet cows and stray cow is the same. Something happens to them that they would've have sought out for in the first place if it wasn't forced on them. That is the objective reality.
Subjective views of reality where empathy doesn't apply by virtue of no personal connection sends society back into barbarism. Your world view is compatible with allowing black women to be raped in a world with chattel slavery because slaves were once though to be property of a white male.
Plain and simple: your world view is wrong and morally indefensible. If you like it that way, so be it. But you're sick and twisted if so.
Imagine thinking you have the moral high ground while trivializing and using the suffering of actual rape victims and slavery by falsely equating it to something as harmless as artificial insemination of livestock. That's genuinely disgusting. No self awareness? Just none at all? And I'm allegedly the one with an incorrect and morally indefensible world view...
Do you really think this makes you look good? Get help.
How do we know that artificial insemination isn't traumatizing to cows? Where is your evidence of that? You claiming that rape to cows is harmless is trivializing.
Comparison doesn't mean perfect equation. Don't fucking put words in my mouth.
This doesn't match with your claims just a few comments ago. So now you're admitting they aren't the same? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance It's okay to feel uncomfortable and conflicted right now. Perhaps dwell on the fact that you actually do understand that they aren't the same while simultaneously clinging to a world view that requires them to be the same.
Show me where I perfectly equated humans to cows, cows to dogs, or dogs to humans.
It's okay to feel uncomfortable and conflicted right now if you can't find it. Perhaps dwell on the fact that you actually do understand that they are the same IN THE WAYS I DESCRIBED while simultaneously clinging to a world view that requires them to be different.
Yeah there's the discomfort coming out. That's what I thought.
Cope. You've ran out of arguments, but you're trying to cover your ass to make it look like you're the one that came out on top.
Keep up the debate if you're not uncomfortable with people pointing out the flaws in your world view for all to see.
You admitted that artificial insemination of livestock is not equivalent to rape. So yes, I did come out on top, as this was the original point that we were debating. If there is something else you'd like to still debate, you can make another point. But my point has been resolved.
Artificial insemination is equivalent to rape though. That's been my whole argument this entire time.
And instead of finding good reasons to refute that, you're doubling down on straw mans and trying to derail the conversation. You're sweating that I won't give up to your bigoted views.
"Comparison doesn’t mean perfect equation."
this you?
Yes dumbass. I said that IN THE CONTEXT of referring to how humans, cows, and dogs aren't ALL the same. However, humans, cows, and dogs are ALL sentient beings with the capability to communicate and experience pain. In that way, consent is real for them, and artificial insemination via non-consent is rape for ALL of them.
You're trying to trap me in a cognitive fallacy, when the really fallacy is your inability to understand nuance and context. Truly not shaking the dumbass reputation.
That's truly ironic. Again, no self awareness at all? Nuance and context is what I have highlighted for you. If you understood nuance and context, then you would understand that things happening in a different context to different subjects are actually nuanced and different. Instead your flawed world view requires all of this to be viewed as black and white and the same, when it is not.