I mean, every community is an echo chamber, that is what online communities do and have done since the beginning of the internet. Hell, in-person meeting groups are echo chambers more often than not. If you go to an open source convention, the people there will probably echo your opinions on the topic.

Lemmy is definitely an echo chamber in many different communities, I would venture to say most. If someone thinks left communities aren't as much of an echo chamber as liberal or conservative, then they either haven't spent enough time there or are lying to themselves just like the people that say "propaganda won't work on me"

People gravitate towards people with the same views who confirm their worldview. Even if you discuss topics and have different views, you are still in a group with like 90% the same views. That is just how humans are unless one makes a conscious effort to go into hugely different groups like specific debate groups or something.

[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

you are still in a group with like 90% the same views

I hate this oversimplification and draging fediverse through the mud. There are literally tankie, zionist, and some right wing instances going at each other regularly in lemmy.

In any other platform, users would be banned or just don't speak up at all because of inherent threat of being seen as an outcast and that would be the end of it.

For all the time I've been on the internet, I've never seen this level of anti censorship without going into the dark corners of the internet.

It was all "west good, others savages" before. It's been amazing what the fediverse has unlocked.

You can peddle this echo chamber bullshit all day, but i don t buy it. I know there are attempts at censorship in fediverse too but theres always a counter argument in the other instances calling them out without a threat of getting banned and that's beautiful. Even when instances ban users and delete posts, some of it lingers on other instances for proof.

Long live the fediverse.

[–] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I respectfully disagree. I understand what you are saying. But censorship and echo chambers on a platform level are a related, but different issue.

I agree that Lemmy is very much anti-censorship.

an environment in which somebody encounters only opinions and beliefs similar to their own, and does not have to consider alternatives

However, echo chambers can exist with 0 platform censorship whatsoever. It doesn't have to be the platform's fault. If people only read and interact with communities who's viewpoints confirm their own, that is a completely self-made echo chamber. Completely seperate than censorship and completely unrelated to the platform, but instead the people and community moderators.

For example, hexbear users pretty much only interact with hexbear and .ml users (and often ban others). That is an echo chamber. The .world main communities ban people of both too far right and too far left so there is little interaction of those viewpoints with those communities. That is an echo chamber. The community of open source doesn't ban many people, but the only people who go to that community are very positive about open source. That is an echo chamber.

If you have a dozen rooms in the same building and you have 1 room that thinks the world is flat and the people don't go into any other room, even though they have free and open access and can go to hear the opinions of the 11 other rooms, that room is an echo chamber

[–] pucker4676@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That doesn't change the fact it's yet another privately owned social media platform geared up and ready to manipulate. No thanks. Them dirty profiteers can have it to themselves.

Your response was a lot of words for stating the obvious. Touch a nerve?

[–] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 1 points 1 day ago

Lol nope, i don't use bluesky. I agree that corporate manipulative media can go fuck themselves.

I was just correcting your implication for other viewers that the fediverse is any different as far as echo chambers. It is just not a corporate controlled echo chamber.