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I was thinking about it recently, and this is just a random thought I had it's not well developed, but I was Watching something on the uptick in separatist parties in the UK, and given the massive geographical range of the US I was wondering if separatist movements would be helpful.

This could be any separtist movement, from Chicano and African to Indigenous to Cascadian. I just feel like independence from the US is a lot more feasible in the short term rather than some form of revolution overtaking the whole country all at once. But like I said, it's an undeveloped thought (although I would prefer answers more than "i love balkanization" and "America is bad so yes." It's less a question of "is hurting america good" and more "is this the best way to do it?")

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[–] ProudCascadian@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 6 days ago

It's a really tough subject. Even if I don't want to seem wishy-washy on this whole thing, I am still researching theory to see what would work, because this step will obviously be very important. I was wondering whether it would be easier to start multiple socialist revolutions that the government would have to separately take care of rather than one big one that would be crushed, but looking historically, the massive lands of Tsarist Russia and Imperial China became Communist in conditions similar to the United States, and small separate revolutions are easier for Capitalism to crush that one big revolution that is united. An advisable way to do things is have cells in Cascadia that can hamper the US war effort by a lot of ways. It doesn't have to be sabotage of supply lines; it can also be by decreasing the morale of soldiers (which is a big weak point, you just show how little their own government truly cares about them, show how they will have no freedom afterwards, how they won't be able to afford a home, etc.). The sheer privatization of the military could make it more prone to Marxist dialectic, since people making the materials are more prone to the fluctuations of the market, and a workers' strike could really cripple not just the US economy, but the entire war effort and cause the victory of a Socialist country like Russia, China, or Mexico. A big problem is that separatist movements could forment a toxic kind of nationalism, like in Serbia or Hungary, where there would be class collaboration within these separate nations, say for instance a Cascadian proletariat becoming enamored with a Cascadian bourgeoise, or Texan plt. and bgs., or New England. Then there is the flipside of a De-United States having the bgs. feiting itself instead of the plt., which could allow Communist movements to take advantage. Overall I am just spitballing. I would say that a United States remaining united would make Communist revolution far more difficult both within and without its borders due to its meit, but there are no solutions without struggle and tactics. I have been reading Lenin's works on Nations over and over again, but if you have any other theory concerning balkanization and nationhood, that would immensely help both me and Jeanne-Paul Marat.