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[-] gerryflap@feddit.nl 16 points 11 months ago

This article is obviously from an American perspective, in which case e-bikes are probably a necessary evil to give kids more freedom. But from the Dutch perspective I'm certainly a bit scared about them. I see more and more kids racing through the streets on those things. These kids often used to go by bike anyway, but their speed was still limited by their physical ability. Now they have to put in less energy, meaning they'll gain weight, and they're also going way too fast with a heavier bike that they don't fuly control. It's led to plenty of dangerous situations already. People obviously aren't forced to buy an e-bike, but the kids without one often have a bit of a problem when they have to cycle 10km every day with friends who do have one. So it becomes a domino effect where we end up in a worse situation than before.

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 7 points 11 months ago

Especially in the Netherlands, better to have those escooters than to have actual scooters which make tons of noise and blow exhaust fumes to any biker that drives behind them.

[-] gerryflap@feddit.nl 5 points 11 months ago

Oh yeah for scooters it's better. But for bikes it's only better if it leads to someone using a bike where they otherwise could not. Otherwise it makes stuff more dangerous and expensive and less healthy.

[-] CoopaLoopa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago

Middle schoolers (age 11-14) just rip around on 2-stroke dirt bikes where I'm at. Even a 100cc dirt bike will hit 50mph at WOT.

At least e-bikes aren't noisy like the awful buzz of a 2-stroke a half-mile away.

[-] lemann@lemmy.one 2 points 11 months ago

Here electric dirtbikes are a problem. They rip around with no lights in the dark, and you can't hear them coming. Things like that make me understand why places like Paris have bike gates to restrict the handlebar width and tyre size of bikes that can pass through

The riders wear no helmets whatsoever, so I'm just currently waiting on that problem to sort itself out 👍

Still infinitely better than hearing a two stroke from half a mile away though

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