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Is it simply over-correcting in response to western anti-communist propaganda? I'd like to think it's simply memeing for memes sake, but it feels too genuine.

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[–] onoira@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (3 children)

as an anarchist who has organised with meatspace MLs, the topic of Stalin never comes up on its own. it comes up online more often because we're not doing anything more important than just talking.

Stalin comes up in meatspace when some liberal confronts an ML and demands to know if they're 'Stalinist' and what they think of the 'Holomdor'. then the ML explains how 'Stalinism' isn't a thing, they primarily read Marx, Engels and Lenin, and how Stalin was the leader of a team not a dictator and even the CIA's own profile on him says exactly that, and then explain the ongoing threats the Soviet security state was protecting against and the cultural and economic trauma of losing 15% of their population in World War II, and the climatological history of the Southern regions and how the famine impacted more than just Ukraine and how famines were common in the region, and how the Ukrainian kulaks, protesting that their lands were being given to the serfs, burned crops and equipment and salted the land, and how famines were ended in the region under the USSR, and then ask the liberal if they care about famines under capitalism.

then the liberal says 'yeah but Stalin was basically Hitler' and then we in this group of anarchists, ML(M)s and syndicalists chase this fucking wrecker out into the street so we can get back to work.

i think any strong opinion on Stalin as an individual is already wrong, because you're falling for the Great Man of History fallacy. i think Stalin is irrelevant unless you're an ML cadre who needs to learn from the successes and mistakes of the USSR, but i think the history of the USSR is also important to any communist.

when you see an ML defending Stalin, it's almost always because someone is criticising MLs based on an uninformed claim about Stalin, or they're criticising Stalin from an uninformed position. and i don't blame them: i'm all for criticising mistakes, but we don't need to make shit up to do that.

i get that as anarchists we're suspicious of statist leaders, but i don't get why it's so hard to understand that statists would defend a communist state. even if you see them enemies, you would benefit from reading their theory to understand their position rather than going 'uhhh, why do statists defend states so much? must be they can't read, or they're just stu~pid lol must be because they have daddy issues lol'

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 hours ago

"No the Katyn Massacre was good actually because..."

Listen, foolish one, historically these Stalin worshippers will use you to install their vanguard party and immediately turn around and kill you for anarchist dissent. Learn from past mistakes and stop trusting autocratic morons. Even when they say "no bro totally trust me bro solidarity bro" it is nothing but a lie. Have fun with Красный Террор два: Электрический бугалу!

[–] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 4 points 7 hours ago

not a dictator

don't need to make shit up

You might want to pick one

[–] MrNobody@quokk.au 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

All I’m hearing from that is in meatspace the mls you meet defend Stalin?

And after browsing your history, you uh seem to go and bat for statist mls more often than you ever fight for or promote anarchism… not to start on the HexBear emojis.

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Lmao you sound like a cia interrogator going through someones posts while they're handcuffed to a chair naked

[–] Luminous5481@anarchist.nexus 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

everybody you know is cia. your cat? cia. your mom? cia. that rash you got on your privates after fucking that bottle you found on the ground? also cia.

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

My cat doesn't post nonsense on the internet

My mom however...

[–] Luminous5481@anarchist.nexus 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

just you, then?

hey, you need any tips on getting rid of that rash, I know a good cia agent who can write you a prescription.