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[–] mapu@slrpnk.net 3 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

I've read it enhances every other flavour, kind of like salt but without making things salty

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 4 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Hmm, that's interesting. I got a pot of chili scheduled for later today, I'll try a bay leaf.

I've been perfecting my chili recipe for years. It includes red wine, cocoa powder, and lime juice. Perhaps a bay leaf will become part of it.

[–] eldoom@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Have you tried a little bit of espresso grounds? It adds a certain flavor to meats that's just... incredible... Might not go with what you have here though.

Or like tap out the tiniest amount of cinnamon on your hand and add whatever falls off of it? It shouldn't even be enough to say there's cinnamon in it. It's like nature's msg, it just makes it taste better, gives it a good homogeneous flavor that pops somehow. Straight up witchcraft

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Cinnamon is my favorite spice, but I don't put it in my chili, even though I know people who do. I think I'd be able to taste it too much.

And I'm not a coffee drinker, at all, so I don't think a coffee ingredient is going to work for me. I get it, though.

The cocoa powder was the big revelation for me, it really adds a nice hint of molé. Next was lime juice, which does something to balance the flavors. I'm finding it handy for lots of stuff.

I've been experimenting with soy sauce, too.

[–] eldoom@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 hours ago

The thing with the cinnamon is you're not adding anywhere close to enough to taste it. Not even really enough to say that it's in there. It's like the bay leaves in this thread, adding the most miniscule amount to a recipe does something to the flavor. It's not enough cinnamon for it to logically be the cinnamon but it just tastes better somehow.

I'm not a coffee person at all either. So that's totally understandable.

Soy sauce is a surprisingly adaptable ingredient!

[–] paperazzi@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Bay leaf is subtle but nicely "rounds out" the dish. It's not a distinct spice flavour like pepper or thyme. I use it in a lot of the food I cook but not everything. Putting it in chili is exactly where it should be put.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 points 18 hours ago

Interesting, I'm looking forward to giving it a try.

[–] OleFoFa@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I just toss a sprinkle of msg in, does wonders

[–] nomy@lemmy.zip 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

MSG only enhances umami and has a distinctly salty flavor. Try substituting a bay leaf for a fuller, richer flavor. You may want to remove the leaf before serving.

[–] SpongyAneurysm@feddit.org 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

MSG isn't just enhancing umami, it tastes umami by itself, because the umami taste is triggered by receptors on the tongue that react to some amino acids, one of them being the glutamate in Mono-Sodium-Glutamate. The salty part comes from the sodium, which has its own receptors as well.

This stuff is literally made for our taste buds.