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Christianity isn't gay and trans hate.
White supremacy isn't black hate.
At what point in history have religions benefited humanity? I have only ever seen countless wars and genocides on behalf of it. When does it get to the part where we help the unfortunate?
Judaism isn't Zionism, it just fostered and fomented it.
The same as white supremacy was fostered by Christianity.
I can hate the cause of problems as well as the problems themselves. It's not my fault or problem you can't connect the dots.
Christianity isn't gay or trans hate. White supremacy is non-white hate. The dots you're connecting are different pictures. Actual Christians are followers of a brown dude. That's not a True Scotsman fallacy, it's just definitional, coming from an "unborn" atheist, if you will.
I said those first two lines mockingly. They are both the same exact thing. Just because you personally don't participate in the lynching doesn't mean it's not done by your group. When that group performs all of its "good deeds" with the express purpose of whitewashing the bad and expanding the reach of its power structure, I don't take it at face value. They aren't even separate dots. It's just already a straight line
I think that's mistaking the forest for the trees (I know that's sort of backward for the metaphor)
I 100% deny these mongrel's claims to be Christians on a purely conceptual level. Put 100 molesting "cross dressers" in a room with a couple trans folk and I'm not going to think they're the same.
Ok but this is what Christian society has allowed and secreted away and in many cases (outside molestation) they have celebrated their atrocities. These are the leaders of Christian faith. For centuries. At what point will "real" Christians take power of their group, do you think?
Honestly not sure, and that is a really good point. I do think there are enough people out there who call themselves Christians and explicitly reject the nonsense, but maybe that group is thinning like my own disillusionment.
If they change to be unitarians or something the. I don't really have a problem with them. I still dislike religions in general but if you are actively distancing yourself from the evils, it's fine. Unfortunately, the excuse of "well my daddy and granddaddy were Catholics so I have to be too" attitude keeps people entrenched within the groups who love doing evil.
That being said, the last two popes have been a pleasant surprise change in tone.
I will say I always end up back at "the institution is the problem" (can you guess I grew up protestant?) but I agree on the popes being a good trend. What you've brought up makes me wonder the power of calling yourself Christian the "loudest" or with the most influence, even while being directly unchristian. That sort of co-opting is almost inevitable.
That's correct, gay and trans hate come from conservatism
That's not correct, it stems from justifying chattel slavery
Religion itself has benefitted countless people, from promoting general welfare to giving solace to those who experience the death of loved ones.
Wars and genocides don't happen because of religion. They happen because of resource accumulation, otherwise known as primitive accumulation prior to the rise of capital accumulation. Religion is co-opted by the powers-at-be as a galvanizing force. Christianity wasn't the cause of the crusades, European powers aim to acquire the riches of the middle east was.
You're showing a reactionary attitude towards religion. I've seen reactionary atheists have just as violent attitudes as what they claim to oppose, justifying islamphobia or antisemitism as simply anti-religion, or even going as far are justifying nuking the middle east.
Also not true, Zionism has roots in secularism. It is a fascist project. The religious aspect was wielded only as much as it's usefulness for convincing more people to join the project. Additionally, the vast majority of Zionists are Christian Zionists. Same with Christian nationalism, it is the Conservatism that is the root of the violence and hate, not the religion. In fact, they intentionally ignore every aspect of the religion that is incongruent with their fascist aims.
Again you've got it backwards, white supremacists twisted religion to justify their white supremacy. In fact white supremacy is more rooted in scientific racism. Which was again, used to justify chattel slavery and the eradication of the 'subhuman' natives.
Except you're not genuinely interested in the root cause. You're just generalizing it as religion itself out of a reactionary attitude.
Some people are in so much pain because of a difficult life that they have nothing else. Those people should be allowed to keep their religion. If it gives them comfort during dark times, and it's not hurting anyone, then I am in full support of them keeping it.
And I wouldn't want anyone deciding my religion for me. What right do I have to do it to someone else?