People are just insecure about gender; even though it, and all of the traits that come along with it, are entirely made up social concepts that only exist for those that acknowledge them.

Because it's not a real actual thing, it 's entirely open to interpretation and as such some people will see the same thing as good while others see it bad. Because it's found only with a social base—i.e. an 'identity' or how other people perceive you—the more aware someone is of other's seeing them, the more likely they are to be passionate about the concept and adhere to it.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just cos its a made up social concept (I don't think it is but I'll accept the premises for the purpose of the argument) doesn't mean its a bad thing. Morals are a social concept should we do away with morality in the name of tearing down oppressive social concepts?

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world -4 points 1 day ago

doesn't mean its a bad thing

Oh, that's not up to you, though. This is something determined on an individual level so you have no control over how other people perceive it. It is entirely a brain by brain basis.

So, for you it's not a bad thing, but for others it is. Just as others don't even think about it or care for the concept at all. Involvement in any identity is involvement in how others perceive you. If you're passionate about your identity, how others perceive you, you'll likely be passionate when their perception doesn't match what you're trying to make it.

There's people offended by being given any gender label. Then there's those like me that don't care and see it as something for others to decide, since my identity exists only in their minds and it's not up to me to control how they see the world, or even care too much. That's how we know it's a social concept. If you were born the only person on earth, you wouldn't even have an identity to worry about. You wouldn't know which height is best, which hair colour is best, your "role" in society, what you're supposed to wear, etc. All these social concept never got invented and you're just you.

[–] Rengoku@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There are only two genders, no self interpretation is allowed. Far left duh.

[–] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 1 points 11 hours ago

There is even intersex, how can you say there are just 2 genders?

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world -1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Well, in nature there's no genders.

We were born from bits and pieces and will go back to them, in a timespan that's not even worth noting.

But in human society genders were created and their contents is specific to the culture and society you're in, so you don't even get an international standard.

Take those away, though and you're just being back to how you were born; genderless. If you were born without the rest of us, you'd.never even know what gender is. That there are specific rules, dependent on society and culture, to what you can do, wear, earn, fuck, and behave like based on other people's interpretation of your biological make up.

You can adhere to these ideas and get upset, or not.