It’s funny how it’s all just recycled talking points from 15 years ago, except about trans people instead of gay people.
“I didn’t ask anyone to call me straight! I’m normal.”
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It’s funny how it’s all just recycled talking points from 15 years ago, except about trans people instead of gay people.
“I didn’t ask anyone to call me straight! I’m normal.”
Jerry Seinfeld is a bigot, meme is backwards.
The only way to consider cis a slur is if one considers trans a slur, which is immediately telling of what kind of person is being interacted with.
I just don't like the word, not sure why but being referred to with it is just unpleasant.
Cis is not a slur, cissy definitely is.
If someone thinks cis is a slur, they probably deserve it to be.
Yeah, cis is just a category. Cissy is intentionally derogatory. Def not the same.
It's kinda hard to get mad about Cissy though. It doesn't do the same damage that transphobic and homophobic slurs do. Kinda like how calling white people "cracker" is technically a slur, but people usually don't treat it the same as the n word because there isn't a long-standing history of enslaving and killing white people anywhere (or atleast anywhere I'm aware of) .
I'm in a lot of trans spaces, but I'm not on Twitter... Is that why I've never heard of that before? Because I can't imagine that's very common outside of the worst places
has anyone who wasn’t an anime pfp in a discord server actually used “cissy”
I remember Muskrat banning people who use that shortly after he took over Twitter.
Their is no objective measure of if something is a slur. Their is simply a word and some quantity of the population that find that word subjectively offensive against themselves. If enough people say that a word is a slur then it becomes a slur.
I don't think that definition of slur is correct. I'd argue that any word that is being used insultingly to refer to a subset of the population is a slur. Using a shortened version of the scientific term without malice to describe someone couldn't ever be seen as a slur, even if some people didn't like being called it. Unless it's common to use it derogatorily, I don't think that you can call any descriptive word a slur. Since 'cis' is just the Latin opposite of 'trans', it's pretty clear that it isn't meant to be derogatory.
Even if I personally felt offended when anyone called me "tall", I don't think I could categorize that as a slur because I am tall and that's the word that is commonly used to describe my height without intent to offend.
People are just insecure about gender; even though it, and all of the traits that come along with it, are entirely made up social concepts that only exist for those that acknowledge them.
Because it's not a real actual thing, it 's entirely open to interpretation and as such some people will see the same thing as good while others see it bad. Because it's found only with a social base—i.e. an 'identity' or how other people perceive you—the more aware someone is of other's seeing them, the more likely they are to be passionate about the concept and adhere to it.
Just cos its a made up social concept (I don't think it is but I'll accept the premises for the purpose of the argument) doesn't mean its a bad thing. Morals are a social concept should we do away with morality in the name of tearing down oppressive social concepts?
doesn't mean its a bad thing
Oh, that's not up to you, though. This is something determined on an individual level so you have no control over how other people perceive it. It is entirely a brain by brain basis.
So, for you it's not a bad thing, but for others it is. Just as others don't even think about it or care for the concept at all. Involvement in any identity is involvement in how others perceive you. If you're passionate about your identity, how others perceive you, you'll likely be passionate when their perception doesn't match what you're trying to make it.
There's people offended by being given any gender label. Then there's those like me that don't care and see it as something for others to decide, since my identity exists only in their minds and it's not up to me to control how they see the world, or even care too much. That's how we know it's a social concept. If you were born the only person on earth, you wouldn't even have an identity to worry about. You wouldn't know which height is best, which hair colour is best, your "role" in society, what you're supposed to wear, etc. All these social concept never got invented and you're just you.
There are only two genders, no self interpretation is allowed. Far left duh.
There is even intersex, how can you say there are just 2 genders?
Well, in nature there's no genders.
We were born from bits and pieces and will go back to them, in a timespan that's not even worth noting.
But in human society genders were created and their contents is specific to the culture and society you're in, so you don't even get an international standard.
Take those away, though and you're just being back to how you were born; genderless. If you were born without the rest of us, you'd.never even know what gender is. That there are specific rules, dependent on society and culture, to what you can do, wear, earn, fuck, and behave like based on other people's interpretation of your biological make up.
You can adhere to these ideas and get upset, or not.
The first times I saw "cis" being used, it was a punch back against anti-trans slurs; the use was intentionally pejorative but it was justified. A bit like calling a white supremacist a cracker.
I suspect the wider use beyond this aim was to teach transphobes a lesson by giving them an undesirable label ("cissys" was used if offence was sought) in an attempt to create empathy. The "it's a technical term" argument did offer a funny balance to the "biological" argument which helped de-tooth some anti trans talking points..
Of course, this approach also probably drove more of the indifferent to oppose the trans movement, rather than garnering empathic support.
It likely did more harm than good, and is likely a hill a lot of folks are going to die on. Then again, maybe that was the point?
“Cis” means not trans. It is not derogatory, it is not “pushing back” against slurs, it exists so we have a word that means “not trans.”
Read the reply again - notice the meaning is not in question, merely the use.