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[–] MajinBlayze@lemmy.world 53 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This might age poorly, but wishful thinking, I think.

Nothing about the "AI" speculative bubble is likely to be impacted by the war in Iran.

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago (3 children)

oil skyrocketing in price and the economy and stock market taking a huge hit could cause the investments required to prop up the bubble to run out of steam

[–] MajinBlayze@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

The parts of the ~~economy~~ stock market that would be heavily impacted by oil prices are already in the gutter.

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The parts of the economy that would be heavily impacted by oil prices

Literally all of it. https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/06/oilpricesinflation.asp

are already in the gutter.

You're not wrong. Does not refute my claim though.

[–] MajinBlayze@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Segregate the market into "AI" and "non-AI" segments for simplicity.

Looking at the thousand or so "investors" who's money matters at this scale, there's no point in selling "non-AI" stock to fund "AI" investments already, these markets are already low. Adding the Iran war to that isn't changing anything. More likely, they are borrowing against existing "AI" stock and reinvesting that (oversimplification, but speaking broadly). Additionally, one of the big sources of these loans is Saudi Arabia, which benefits from the higher oil prices.

The only other way in which oil prices impact "AI" is through energy costs, which impacts the immediate profitability of "AI", which "investors" have shown they are unconcerned with.

Or, to simplify,

Nothing about the "AI" speculative bubble is likely to be impacted by the war in Iran.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

the economy and stock market taking a huge hit

Two things that have also failed to manifest, in large part thanks to the prolific state spending following COVID.

Keep in mind, the event that really knocked over the tower of cards in 2008 was Greenspan's decision to raise interest rates (very sharply) in 2007. Trump's very obviously not going to do that. If anything, he's been working overtime to get interest rates lower, because he knows cheap money = high (raw) GDP growth and low unemployment.

What we're seeing isn't recessionary. It's a glacial shift in the economic priorities of the US, from a post-Reagan titanic banking juggernaut to a post-COVID more-WW2-style global arms depot. The US economy increasingly makes cops and bombs and machines that assist cops and bombs. And there's no recognized upper limit for demand on these goods and services. Not under current geopolitical conditions, anyway.

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Two things that have also failed to manifest, in large part thanks to the prolific state spending following COVID.

We're still only 3 days into this war. And yet this is already manifesting right now in real life as we debate it on the internet. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/live/stock-market-today-dow-sp-500-nasdaq-sink-while-oil-prices-jump-as-iran-attacks-jolt-markets-235000934.html

Trump’s very obviously not going to do that.

Yes, agreed, this is very obvious. Because Trump does not have control over the interest rates.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

We’re still only 3 days into this war.

The second big Iran-Israel conflict in less than a year.

And yet this is already manifesting right now in real life as we debate it on the internet.

Ah yes. A total nosedive of 0.30%.

This is the Uno-Reverse "Why you complaining when the DOW is over 50,000!" line. Any token sell-off gets reported on like it's Black Friday.

Because Trump does not have control over the interest rates.

He's lining up his pick to replace Powell as we speak.

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I'll come back to this in 4 weeks. See you then 😉

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

You gotta at least give yourself a full Friedman Unit.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago

I wouldn't take any kind of advice from Friedman...

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Why would a war with Iran cause oil prices to skyrocket?

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] village604@adultswim.fan 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The prices are what they were in January, according to the article.

[–] heartbreaker@sh.itjust.works 2 points 23 hours ago

The article is from yesterday, the prices went from 65$ to 70$ compared to yesterday. Not huge, but an increase.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 5 points 1 day ago

They already are.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If anything, department of war spending on AI might prolong the bubble.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 3 points 23 hours ago

Nah, the DoD contract is also very likely running at a loss, like every other subscription.

[–] crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 23 hours ago

Makes you wonder if that was the idea. They used AI in the Venezuela attack, too.

There's also the betting market that Trump is very friendly towards, and we've already seen bets on military strikes pop up days before anyone knew about it, so someone's making money on insider info.

[–] VinegarChunks@lemmus.org 2 points 20 hours ago

Meme feels like

  1. Steal underpants. . .
  2. Profit!