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Yeah, that's why as soon as someone gets accused of rape, if you dare say that they're a piece of shit you get a ton of "innocent until proven guilty"
Even on lemmy, people keep on defending rapists. When I dared to complain about the term "allegedly raped" about the son of the princess of whatever that was good friends with epstein who had fucking literal videos that he took of the rape, people started defending it by saying that he's innocent until proven guilty. Inescapable evidence? Believing the many, many victims that reported him? No, let's instead pretend that we are in a court of law so that we can support the rapists.
Most men are definitely not against rape. I'm not sure that most people are, in general. They might be superficially against the idea, but practically speaking they don't want to disturb the social status quo that protects rapists by pretending that rape victims are liars.
"Innocent until proven guilty" is about not prematurely judging when you don't know the facts. It's not about defending rapists - it's about defending people who are possibly not rapists.
Are you a judge or a lawyer? Or even, a newspaper?
If not, then why do you have to follow a legal safeguard?
Why are people not saying that Trump is allegedly doing bad stuff, he hasn't been formally condemned, so innocent until proven guilty?
If it's not about defending rapists, then why is it that people only say that when it protects rapists and the like, but not for other criminal activities?
And last but not least, saying innocent until proven guilty about a rapist, is prematurely judging that the victims are lying. So you're deciding to trust someone, and you're trusting the one accused of rape rather than the victims.
But thanks for proving my point.
why do we have ideals? does the fact that you have carved an exception in "innocent until proven guilty" out for rape say more about you or us