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[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

In that very first scene when he meets Dr. Bashir it’s clear as a bell— and this was my choice—that he was sexually attracted to this good-looking young Starfleet doctor. And although they didn’t follow that up with an explicitly gay character, that ambiguity about Garak remained.

[Laughs] Oh yeah. I broadcast it as strongly as I could. But you know, they never really followed up on it, we never even had a discussion about it. Deep Space Nine was already at right angles to the Star Trek franchise. It was a different kind of Star Trek show. And I think that suddenly to bring on an openly gay alien, who, who was having this relationship with Dr. Bashir. I think that was maybe a bridge too far. I’m guessing at this, but I, but I think that may be it.

I think Ira and the writers loved that it just added to the mystery of the guy. What is he? Who is he? Is he this or is he that? I think it just reinforced what they were already trying to do with the character.

Yeah totally, 100% just shippers reading into it, uh huh.

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip -2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

So your point is that, in fact, two non stereotypical men existing is gay coded unilaterally by one of the actors. Is that supposed to endear them to me? If anything thats a huge letdown because in the end, Robinson could not conceive these two men being just unusual and unlikely friends. MUST be fucking.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

two non stereotypical men existing is gay coded unilaterally by one of the actors

No? My point is that they were not just "two non stereotypical men existing" and that at least one of those men was explicitly trying to broadcast gay vibes.

If anything thats a huge letdown because in the end, Robinson could not conceive these two men being just unusual and unlikely friends. MUST be fucking.

Also no. Just because Garak is attracted to Bashir does not mean that they are necessarily "fucking." Queer people can have friends of the same gender, and Garak's sexuality and relationship with Bashir is intentionally ambiguous.

Frankly, I don't see a reason why Garak's sexuality would be a "huge letdown" for you other than homophobia. Regardless of a sexual element, their dynamic is the same.

There's also plenty of other platonic friendships in the show, like between Bashir and Miles.