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Rly shit takes from Engels here [Engels - The Magyar Struggle] Apparently there's worse yet to come in "Democratic Pan-Slavism"

Its also a total reversal from his position in septemberish 1848, when he was castigating germans for their chauvanism being the cause of slavs opposing revolution

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[–] ComradeRat@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ik the context, but ty for explainining for anyone who doesnt know

In terms of his view on Slavs, i think he's wrongheaded here and was correct in his earlier articles when he blamed slavic support of counterrevolution on chauvanism of e.g. German revolutionaries. Imo the same analysis applies to the hungarian revolutionaries.

Wrt unlimited genocide on the first world, i disagree.

In the context of 1848, England is the closest thing to the first world, and engels makes constant apologies for their revolutionary spirit faltering. The other analogue to the first world is the Russians—in terms of military size rather than standards of living or economic power.

The smaller nations (slavic, celtic or basque) were oppressed by the Austro-Hungarians, Prussians, Ottomans and Russians. Calling for the extermination of them is more like calling for the extermination of the population of first world comprador states in the global south

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago

My take is that these articles should be firmly in the "Engels has sent in a silly letter, we should neither print it nor reply to him" category. The real lesson from them is that butthurtposting without a real analysis is counterproductive.