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Power price rises are from data centres. Nothing but data centres. (pivot-to-ai.com)

submitted 5 days ago by dgerard@awful.systems to c/techtakes@awful.systems

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Brookings: make the data centres pay to build the power plants

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYWs1HQEEHE&list=UU9rJrMVgcXTfa8xuMnbhAEA - video
https://pivottoai.libsyn.com/20260305-power-prices-data-centres-nothing-but-data-centres - podcast

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[–] itsprobablyfine@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Hilarious dude. I've designed some of the things you mention. Data centers consume power, a shit ton of it. The idea that the demand is increasing but the price won't is bonkers to me. And that's before you consider all the labor going towards building new infrastructure for these things rather than repairing our existing grid. This trend is absolutely ravaging our industry. I'm being asked to design GREENFEILD fossil fuel gen stations to feed gigawatt scale data centers. How is that not insane? We as a society are burning our planet for LLMs

[–] corbin@awful.systems 1 points 2 days ago

By "fossil fuel" do you mean LNG, coal, or something else? There are hundreds of planned LNG plants across the country, yes.

I’ve designed some of the things you mention.

Then put up numbers already. I've been to The Dalles and Prineville and think that I've put forward a decent slice of understanding how datacenters operate. You don't get any points for unsubstantiated authority or expertise.

I'm increasingly concerned that folks just aren't able to condemn Facebook based on the fact that it contributes to three genocides. Making up bullshit about electricity usage is not helpful in that discussion.