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[–] mistermodal@lemmy.ml 22 points 23 hours ago (4 children)
[–] Templa@beehaw.org 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

You should also link Ariadne's post saying she rather use signal, but that would be against the tone of your post, right?

https://social.treehouse.systems/@ariadne/116043045098562878

[–] mistermodal@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, posting wrong opinions would be against the theme of the post, and in fact my account as a whole. That's pretty standard for programmers who wear bunny suits. If we keep going here one of them is going to show up and post that Soatok person's blog.

[–] Templa@beehaw.org 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Got it, you're just here to bait people.

[–] mistermodal@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

I'm here to educate people, not nitpick people and try to pass off my low standards for "secure software" and US government-dependent NGOs as an interest in sustainable OPSEC.

[–] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 13 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Ugh. I've always liked Matrix (and was not bothered too much by the metadata leaks because my home server was not federated anyways), but after noticing some issues and finally reading up on the actual protocol spec a couple of weeks ago... oof. Yeah. No.

Set up XMPP for now. Works really well and the protocol seems so much saner. Unfortunately, it too has some annoyances that are unacceptable to me in the long term. I'm this close to saying "fuck it" and wasting the next couple of years of my life on a new protocol that no one is gonna use. (Cue the XKCD here.)

[–] mistermodal@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA https://lemmy.ml/comment/24436351

I FUCKING KNEW IT YOU PEOPLE ONLY KNOW THAT ONE BLOG

[–] SwooshBakery624@programming.dev 10 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Works really well and the protocol seems so much saner.

Unfortunately, it is not.

[–] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 7 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Ha, thanks, I'd already read that. And I do, mostly, agree; the OMEMO implementation is not great both from the security perspective discussed in the post, as well as the UX (not being able to decrypt old messages on new devices at all).

That being said, I primarily want a selfhosted, federated messenger which also takes privacy and security seriously, and at least for the former, XMPP is really refreshingly good.

[–] mistermodal@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago

Yeah no shit you already read it they post it every single time. I don't think any of them have actually read it, the problems he is complaining about were solved ages ago or by two clicks, once. The guy actually argues for people to use Telegram because they have disabilities and software is hard. An absolute masterclass.

[–] leviathan@feddit.org 19 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Meanwhile Discord in it's entirety is unencrypted

[–] mistermodal@lemmy.ml 3 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

I can't believe that worked. Well, it's a good thing we have more than three options

[–] voxel@feddit.uk 0 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

To be fair, Discord has e2e encrypted voice calls using their "Dave" protocol.

https://discord.com/blog/meet-dave-e2ee-for-audio-video

[–] mistermodal@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago

Dude, don't start

[–] Jolteon@lemmy.zip 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

They're still far more encrypted than literally every other alternative.

[–] mistermodal@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago

You people have zero awareness of the limitations of your own knowledge.