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[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 37 points 2 days ago (4 children)

This. TNG would trigger conservatives if it were in today.

Remember when Ricker feel in love with the non-binary alien and they had a whole discussion about pronouns? It's been thirty years and these guys still aren't over shit like that.

[–] webkitten@piefed.social 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean just the whole Curzon, Kor, and Jadzia scene. Actually all of DS9 would send them into a panic.

Heck, most people misinterpret Roddenberry's original intent, anyway. It always makes me laugh when people talk about Star Trek becoming woke.

Seriously. Star Trek is "woke" first and science fiction second. Gene wanted to make an integrated show, he didn't particularly care if it was science fiction or not.

[–] AnchoriteMagus@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

Yeah, the only reason there wasn't a concerted anti-woke campaign against Trek back then was the technology just didn't exist to enable people with minority opinions like that to easily find each other.

Still, they were there. I remember some BBS Trek guys being "that guy" at a few Trek conventions in the 90s, they were just usually solo or in tiny groups.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hell, TOS triggered them. The problem is that they’re all anybody hears these days.

Imagine if TNG season 1 got bad reviews but because of the tone of the reviews they didn’t bother changing anything. It wouldn’t have gotten better.

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

TNG actually DID get reactions like that, but they were on little newsgroup boards and shit where only serious nerds saw it. The whole origin of "i remember when startrek wasn't for hippies/feminists/gays/liberals/etc." sentiment originates with TNG criticism.

It was just as stupid then as it is now, but now we all apparently have to hear it.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I know, I’ve been to alt.wesley.crusher.die.die.die. But imagine if those nerds were used as an excuse not to change course. What if they said “Frakes, you can’t grow your beard or those nerds win.”

Agreed. I actually don't even think these opinions are more common than they used to be, just that they are amplified to serve the agendas of jerks who agree with them and have the resources and influence to signal boost them into actual pressure on the media.

When fucking who???