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The issue is them having any info to give out in the first place, it is a horrendous transgression for a shop that touts privacy as their thing.
Signal demonstrated that you can decouple payment info from account info and thus they ain't got nothing to produce, MLAT or not. The least Proton coulda done is mimic that tech.
edit: are you shills illiterate, what's your deal? signal also accepts payments, the kind normal people use, like CC and stuff. and they decoupled payment info from account info, so nobody can link John Smith, Fuckville, AL to account protonshill4lyfe@proton.yo
I have pointed this out to protards many times. The fact is there are solutions to not keeping this data on their servers. Then they have the audacity to blame the user.
A company that was concerned about privacy and not money would have already moved this data off their servers. Proton is a garbage company.
That is not really the same, Signal is a donation and Proton is a subscription where a monthly (or yearly) request has to go to the payment provider for your fee, for this you need to keep the payment information on file and linked to the account. Signal can say I got donated by someone but they do not need to keep this information linked to a specific user, just the payment record (that still has your cc/bank details on it) for tax purposes.
How did Signal demonstrate this? Signal is not a paid subscription service
I donated them money once. I wonder if they still have a trace of it.
Indeed, but those are crypto payments from a third party crypto wallet. It's also between users and not recurring, so Signal has no reason to keep the data.
Still shame that they can't do it if you pay by card. Being able to send periodic payment by cash is fine but it's a bad excuse to claim that there are no improvements.
They won't accept Scottish bank notes tho >: (
Proton allows payment with cash, so you can stay private, but if you use your credit card, your company will know and they have to store it in some way.
Not Protons fault in this case.
They don't have to store it.
Yes they do, for tax purposes. With cash they can only say that an account was payed for by cash, which is not (easily) traceable to you as a person.