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[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Just so long as you arbitrarily exclude Iran, Guatemala, Indonesia, Chile, and the many, many other cases where the CIA overthrew peaceful, democratically elected leaders who went against their economic interests, while also blaming countries for things outside of their control, and refusing to consider changes in quality of life and insist that every former colony be compared to the nations that stole/are stealing their wealth and resources.

[–] realitista@lemmus.org -1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I think you are making my point for me. Violent revolutions are often if not usually hijacked and perverted by violent parties to achieve their own ends, which almost never line up with the needs of the actual citizens of the territory.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I have no idea how showing a bunch of peaceful movements that got slaughtered "makes your point for you."

[–] realitista@lemmus.org -1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

It looks to me like you are listing violent revolutions.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

"Violent revolutions" like when Mossadegh was democratically elected? Or Jacobo Árbenz, again, being democratically elected?

You are making my point for me. Westerners are so ignorant of the histories of these countries that it doesn't matter how peaceful they are. You'll just assume that they're violent based on nothing. How are you supposed to win public support when the public doesn't know you exist, and doesn't care if you live or die?

[–] realitista@lemmus.org 0 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

You were talking about the CIA overthrows of said leaders. All were violent revolutions. Including the 2 you list.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Either you're just ignorant and doubling down to try to cover for that, or you have an incredibly low standard for what counts as "violent revolution" to the point that there's no reason to listen to anything you say, because evidently voting for a peaceful leader is a "violent revolution."

Not sure who you're trying to fool, or if you're just utterly delusional. Par for the course for an anti-communist either way tbh.