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Electron apps are ruining the Windows 11 experience, and even the JavaScript creator has warned against ‘rushed web UX over native,’ but it doesn’t look like that will change Microsoft’s plans. In a post on X and other places, Microsoft reaffirmed its commitment to AI in Windows 11 and encouraged Electron developers to consider using AI in their apps.

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[–] finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 118 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (11 children)

Today it took almost 30 seconds for the context menu to appear when I right clicked on a file in windows explorer. I mean ffs, if I wanted everything to be a browser, I'd use a chromebook.

(Inb4 "install linux", it's a work computer and I don't get a say in OS)

[–] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago (2 children)

When I started at my last job, I asked for a mac; I worked on Linux, Windows (wsl), and wanted a change. Most of my collegues (in the dev team) initially asked for a windows PC, but literally everyone ended up on Mac.

Windows is only usable when the WSL is set up and then you basically work exclusively on that VM lol, I literally cannot understand how anyone puts up with this OS. Any other OS is excellent just by comparison.

[–] finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

It's not really a matter of preference. I'm a mechanical engineer, not a developer, and several industry-standard programs are only available for windows. Bugs that come from running in WINE or another emulation layer are unacceptable when they can potentially cause delays in production, scrap parts from a misprint or miscalculation, or lead to a part failure that kills someone.

[–] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 days ago

Oh yeah I'm aware that some professionals are essentially locked to a single platform (same goes with accounting and Excel), I can only hope that the industries this affects start taking Linux more seriously (or Mac, but tbh once you're running on Mac it's less of a leap to work on Linux)

[–] obbeel@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It doesn't make sense to stay locked into the Mac environment unless the hardware is incredible or you need to develop iOS applications.

[–] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 days ago

MacOS doesn't really lock you at all though, and you're free to dev for pretty much any software there, iOS or not

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

As long as you're getting paid for those 30 seconds, it's the shareholders' problem. Keep your blood cool, take a sip of coffee and sit back. Twiddle with a thingamajig on your desk.

If your supervisor asks what you're doing, say "waiting for Windows to load". Because that's what you're doing, and if they don't like it then they should let you use a different OS.

[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Me every day at work.

It's even worse working in the company's network drive.

But damn, it often takes ages for a right click to appear in the goddamned downloads folder (which is in its default C drive location...)

I feel you pain friend.

[–] finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Oh god don't even get me started on our network drives lol. Searching for part drawings can take HOURS

[–] Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Win 11 feels like i replaced by SSD with an HDD. I'm half convinced that they're making it as awful as possible so when the whole OS as a service thing arrives, it'll feel super snappy.

[–] finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago

I will say that LTSC runs way smoother than regular windows, but that's almost certainly because it's got a lot of the bullshit stripped out.

[–] CaptainPedantic@lemmy.world 52 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Dude. Same. Windows 11 at work is fucking awful.

My laptop idles at 12 out of 16 gigs of RAM free.

Right clicking takes dozens of seconds, especially on a network share.

Did IT remove a letter mapped network drive? Haha! Fuck you! Windows hangs indefinitely if you open Windows explorer. You gotta fuck around in the registry to remove that shit.

The only good thing about windows 11 is tabs in Windows explorer. Which MacOS and Linux have had for a gazillion years.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 days ago

Tell corporate to give you more RAM or let you choose a lighter operating system 🤷‍♀️

[–] Bloefz@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Microsoft don't care about file shares anymore anyway, they want you to sign up for OneDrive :(

[–] CaptainPedantic@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

All our network shares are Azure hosted, so Microslop is getting corporate $$$ regardless. And I think that bug has been around since forever.

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 6 points 1 week ago

I can't even type normally anymore in teams. Since it will hang my business laptop during typing. It's so awful.

Really Teams is the worst product.

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

This reminds me that many years ago, there was a small market for better file managers in Windows. Most were more like "side grades" that were better in some ways, but worse than others, but there was one that was way better than all of them called Directory Opus. It was silly expensive for the time (I want to say like $80), and most others were free, but holy shit was it feature filled, including tabs, and just really good. It was also a bit heavy compared to explorer back then. Now it probably runs insanely fast and is still way better. I just looked and it still exists at basically the same price, but any sane person considering it should just leave Windows.

[–] CaptainPedantic@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I use a Norton Commander clone (Total Commander) lol. Having a huge list of bookmarks in a drop-down menu with subfolders is super helpful for my work.

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

NC and Total Commander are honestly great and probably greatly preferrable to Windows Explorer these days.

[–] reev@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Even in Edge, Outlook (a Microslop web app running on a Microslop browser) sometimes takes up to a minute to load on refresh. HOW!? God I hate that company.

[–] finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Lmao yup, the desktop app 'new' outlook takes up to 30 minutes to load sometimes

[–] filcuk@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

I've never had outlook take long, always done in about 5 seconds. Firefox too, which would be the last to optimise for.

[–] Magnum@infosec.pub 9 points 1 week ago
[–] Quazatron@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just like the good old days of running Windows 3.1 on an Intel 386sx. We've come full circle.

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

Win 3.1 wasn't even that slow on a 386sx (yay, 386 buddies! o/), its nothing compared to Win 11 on midrange and lower laptops these days. Then again, those CPUs usually came in PCs with Win 3.0, so Win 3.1 was definitely noticeably heavier. MS also wasn't nearly as large and well funded back then, there is no excuse for this other than pure incompetence.

[–] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

work computer, Win 11, here. I need to lock my PC when I leave my desk. Over the last month or 2 (maybe more?) when I 3 finger salute to lock, it used to open in a moment, now I can count to at least 4 before the screen comes up

[–] finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Windows+L locks it directly, fyi

[–] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago

Oh, nice, tks. too bad they have destroyed many of our trust. Thankfully there is no win 11 at home on any pc and only 1 win 10 that I do not maintain. GF and I are both on linux

[–] mghackerlady@leminal.space 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Theres another windows+L shortcut as well, windows+ctrl+shift+alt+l. It opens linkedin. Because why not

[–] finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

Oh man I forgot about that one. Dumbest shit ever, I love it

[–] XLE@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Look into cleaning up your context menu shell extensions: just a single bad one will freeze your context menu exactly how you described it.

[–] finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, I have literally zero control over what's installed on my computer at work

[–] i_am_hiding@aussie.zone 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Do you have access to HKEY_CURRENT_USER in the registry? You can usually edit this even without admin rights.

I went back to the old Win10 right click menu by this method on my work PC, which sped things up substantially

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/answers/questions/2287432/(article)-restore-old-right-click-context-menu-in

[–] finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

I actually have a batch script (might be a powershell script?) with this and some other stuff in it for when I'm doing a fresh install on my pc.

My work pc is locked the fuck down though, I can't even change my wallpaper or the color of the taskbar lol.

[–] toad@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Lmao. Are you offering pay my bills and provide health insurance?

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