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MJ calls what happened to her in Zion national park “small ‘T’ trauma”. She knows women have experienced worse from their partners. But she still feels the anger of being left behind on a hike by her now ex. “It brings up stuff in my body that maybe I have not cleared out yet,” she said.

Five years ago, MJ and a new partner – he was not exactly her boyfriend, and the pair were not exclusive – traveled from Los Angeles to Utah for an adventure getaway. MJ, who is 38 and works in PR, was looking forward to exploring Zion’s striking scenery; its vast sandstone canyon and pristine wading trails were on the list. But on the morning of their big hike, MJ was not feeling well. She could not shake the feeling that something was “off”; indeed, MJ would learn on this trip that her partner was seeing other women.

As they made their way up Angel’s Landing, MJ’s partner started walking faster than her. “I could tell it was getting on his nerves that I was slow,” she said. “I was like, ‘Fuck it, just go ahead of me.’” He did without hesitation.

When she caught up at the top of the mountain, they took a picture together. Then her partner hiked down the mountain with a woman he had met on the way up, leaving MJ to finish by herself. They broke up shortly after that trip. (MJ asked to be referred to by her initials for the sake of speaking openly about a past relationship.)

Last month, MJ opened TikTok and heard the phrase “alpine divorce”, a label she now attaches to her experience in Zion.

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[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 22 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

Some of these comments are absolutely disgusting, many of you guys desperately need to talk to a therapist. If you read a story like this and feel the need to defend your gender identity, you have some deep-seated insecurity which you should take seriously before it starts harming your relationships with others. I am saying this as a man who had deep-seated insecurity which took a heavy toll on my relationships before seeking years of therapy. It's not as expensive as it sounds, I promise, and it could totally change your life for the better.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

+1

I’m honestly ashamed of my sex.

I get it, I’ve witnessed guys have gut wrenching experiences with women, but… come, on. Do y'all have to internalize that as misogyny?

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world -5 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (3 children)

what if my therapist helped me identify that it was my unreliable girlfriends who were the problem in the relationship, and not myself, and helped me stop dating people who were seeking to exploit me through emotional manipulation and victim-framing narratives rather than taking accountability for their own choices?

and after that my life improved immensely and my family and other relationships grew?

[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 12 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm really glad to hear that therapy helped you, thank you for sharing that - I hope that helps other men who have similar struggles as you to take the plunge and get the help they need.

On a personal note, though, I just had a quick look at your comments and honestly, it feels like you still have a lot of unresolved issues here that you'd benefit from getting off your chest in a safe environment, so I'd suggest more therapy. I'm sorry that people have hurt you, and that isn't your fault, but if you continue to let it dominate your life, it will hurt you in ways that you'll never really understand.

Much love & solidarity.

[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Two people, can just not be right for eachother. It's okay to date someone and not have it not work out.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 0 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Totally. But that's not often how people see things when they are emotionally charged or the relationship was fraught from the start. And a lot of people engage in self-fulling prophecies or self-destructive behaviors. Many people only pursue relationships they know are going to fail, for example.

You also can try to break up with someone and have them physically attack you and stalk you for weeks later and they don't back off until you threaten them with legal/police action. You never know how people are going to react.

[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

This is true. It took me three years one time to get rid of, a well, we will call a pest. Three years. Aweful. I don't harbor any hate to them anymore though, Ive healed and found myself.

But, as Im trying to teach my young son right now, we can't control what other people do or say, we can only control how we respond to it. Noting, there is a big differene in reacting, and responding. Lessons I wish I got as a kid ya know? Its good stuff.

[–] sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today 7 points 15 hours ago

You should book another therapy session because you still obsess over those ex girlfriends daily.